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Forums - Sports Discussion - Ronda Rousey Vs Holly Holm: 14th November 2015

 

How will the fight go?

Holly Wins 14 21.54%
 
Rousey Wins 10 seconds 7 10.77%
 
Rousey Wins 20 seconds 3 4.62%
 
Rousey Wins 30 seconds 17 26.15%
 
Rousey Wins 40 seconds 5 7.69%
 
Rousey Wins 50 seconds 19 29.23%
 
Total:65
Aeolus451 said:
zorg1000 said:

Yes, Rousey is aggressive and can make Holm fight close, thats not what im talking about. Zingano and a few others literally bull rushed at Rousey, they initiated the close quarters combat, that's something Holm is not going to do.

That is the worst game plan ever, a striker fighting in the clinch against a Judo Olympian attempting to counter throws? I don't mean to be rude but u must not know a lot about fighting if u think that is a wise strategy.


The reason why I said Holly should train for close range is because more than likely Holly's plan of keeping Ronda at a distance will probably fail. She really needs a solid plan B for Ronda. At the very least, learn how to strike effectively at that range and to snuff some judo throws. Otherwise Ronda will just eat a few jabs coming in, initiate a glitch and strike at that distance til Holly is knocked out or until ronda can just throw her then submit her. 

Of course Holly needs to train that aspect in order to defend herself, the way u said it earlier tho is that her strategy should be to fight in close.



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I'll go Rousey in 1:10 by submission as see Holm being cautious and avoiding strikes before succumbing to the arm bar.



ArchangelMadzz said:
goopy20 said:
It will probably be over while I am taking a piss when the match start. Would be nice to see Ronda get a beating and get a reality check. But the competition in female MMA is just ridiculously weak. Most women who compete in the UFC do MMA to stay in shape.


Before Ronda no one ever called the Female MMA 'ridiculously weak' An 8ft tall man walking around doesn't mean that the 7ft tall men are short.


Well nobody really cared about women's MMA, untill the UFC turned Rousey in their marketing project. But if you look at the level of competition and talent in women's MMA it's seriously lacking. I mean someone like Roxxy the happy warrior could actually get the the Ultimate fighter show lol.

Sure, Ronda is a good fighter and a Judo Olympian, but in the male division you can't just bum rush all your oponnents and armbar them. The reason why Rousey can is because no woman in her division has any sort of KO power or all round skills to make for an interesting fight. Is Ronda really that good or is the rest just bad? I think it's a bit of both and hopefully women's mma will evolve and we will see some better fighters to compete and give Rousey a real fight. 



goopy20 said:
ArchangelMadzz said:


Before Ronda no one ever called the Female MMA 'ridiculously weak' An 8ft tall man walking around doesn't mean that the 7ft tall men are short.


Well nobody really cared about women's MMA, untill the UFC turned Rousey in their marketing project. But if you look at the level of competition and talent in women's MMA it's seriously lacking. I mean someone like Roxxy the happy warrior could actually get the the Ultimate fighter show lol.

Sure, Ronda is a good fighter and a Judo Olympian, but in the male division you can't just bum rush all your oponnents and armbar them. The reason why Rousey can is because no woman in her division has any sort of KO power or all round skills to make for an interesting fight. Is Ronda really that good or is the rest just bad? I think it's a bit of both and hopefully women's mma will evolve and we will see some better fighters to compete and give Rousey a real fight. 


That's because the vast majority of males and females don't know any judo. They can only use wrestling to man handle ya to the mat.  Most of the males just dance in place and fight like they are sparring with each other. The women are getting better as fighters. They will probably pass the males' skill level and entertainment value in not much longer.



Aeolus451 said:
goopy20 said:


Well nobody really cared about women's MMA, untill the UFC turned Rousey in their marketing project. But if you look at the level of competition and talent in women's MMA it's seriously lacking. I mean someone like Roxxy the happy warrior could actually get the the Ultimate fighter show lol.

Sure, Ronda is a good fighter and a Judo Olympian, but in the male division you can't just bum rush all your oponnents and armbar them. The reason why Rousey can is because no woman in her division has any sort of KO power or all round skills to make for an interesting fight. Is Ronda really that good or is the rest just bad? I think it's a bit of both and hopefully women's mma will evolve and we will see some better fighters to compete and give Rousey a real fight. 


That's because the vast majority of males and females don't know any judo. They can only use wrestling to man handle ya to the mat.  Most of the males just dance in place and fight like they are sparring with each other. The women are getting better as fighters. They will probably pass the males' skill level and entertainment value in not much longer.

Not really man. Hector Lombart is a Judo olympian as well and nobody is making a big deal out of that. You also don't see him arm barring all his opponents and make them look like amateurs. It's because his male opponents are far better trained and skilled than any women in MMA. You think Rousey would be able to do what she's doing to her opponents against male fighters in her own weightclass? A guy like Dillashaw would completely destroy her..  

 



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goopy20 said:
Aeolus451 said:


That's because the vast majority of males and females don't know any judo. They can only use wrestling to man handle ya to the mat.  Most of the males just dance in place and fight like they are sparring with each other. The women are getting better as fighters. They will probably pass the males' skill level and entertainment value in not much longer.

Not really man. Hector Lombart is a Judo olympian as well and nobody is making a big deal out of that. You also don't see him arm barring all his opponents and make them look like amateurs. It's because his male opponents are far better trained and skilled than any women in MMA. You think Rousey would be able to do what she's doing to her opponents against male fighters in her own weightclass? A guy like Dillashaw would completely destroy her..  

 


I think that you're just not giving the women their women due or that you're making the guys out to be alot better than they are. The guys fight like they're sparring or just try to milk the damn clock by wrestling and staying on top, just holding them there. I think ronda could probably beat most of the guys.



Aeolus451 said:
goopy20 said:

Not really man. Hector Lombart is a Judo olympian as well and nobody is making a big deal out of that. You also don't see him arm barring all his opponents and make them look like amateurs. It's because his male opponents are far better trained and skilled than any women in MMA. You think Rousey would be able to do what she's doing to her opponents against male fighters in her own weightclass? A guy like Dillashaw would completely destroy her..  

 


I think that you're just not giving the women their women due or that you're making the guys out to be alot better than they are. The guys fight like they're sparring or just try to milk the damn clock by wrestling and staying on top, just holding them there. I think ronda could probably beat most of the guys.

I think Rousey is actually a good fighter but you gotta admit the rest of the female UFC fighters are also pretty crap. Rousey reminds me of Royce Gracie. Nowadays Gracie would got destroyed by most UFC fighters but back in the early days of MMA he made everybody look like amateurs, simply because his opponents weren't as well trained and well rounded as we see today.

But like I said, I do enjoy watching Rousey fight, I just don't like the way the UFC is hyping her to be some unbeatable fighting machine. Because againt any male UFC fighter in her weightclass would outskill her. Just look at her sparring with Mousasi, he makes her look like a kid that is practing her Judo moves on a grown man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7rujK0iOJU

Obviously, Mousasi is much larger, but she actually said she believes she could take out Velasquez on a good day lol. 




A_C_E said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:

Holy shit , i was about to post this , garbage UFC , not only they are fucking Misha Tate , the only one that can last 2 or 3 rounds vs ronda they are fucking Holly Holms also >.>

Fucking Dana white is such a joke...

PS: Why people sudently started to give a shit about Ronda? Her last fight was the easy one she fought. And people that only see her fight should watch The Ultimate Fighter show where she was a coach, she is fucking crazy , never liked her.

People have always cared about Ronda. TUF with Ronda and Tate just showed how motivated Ronda really is and on one of the episodes - where her mom comes into to help coach - clearly displays  why she is the way that she is. I always liked her but after that episode I felt like Ronda was just that much more respectable. Ronda simply lives for the Octagon. To say she is crazy is to confuse the hate for Miesha Tate with how she normally is. She's not this uncontrollable crazy girl who does much outside the Octagon, unless you think fingering someone or holding a grudge is considered crazy then there's not much you can really say that would define Ronda as being crazy.

Ronda Rousey is a 9/11 and Sandy Hook truther. She also criticized Floyd Mayweather for hitting women, but is now sleeping with a married man who beat his wife.

So yeah I would say she is crazy, even outside the ring, and a hypocrite. I am neither a fan nor a hater, I think she fought at UFC 100? Or some card that had Lesnar? Thats her only fight I have ever seen, aside from a gif of the one that was over so quick people were able to make a gif of the whole thing lol.



Why the hell are the fights so far apart?
Also, is boxing just a bunch of exhibition matches? There are no touneys?



Fight got moved to Nov 14.

http://mmajunkie.com/2015/08/ronda-rousey-vs-holly-holm-now-headlines-ufc-193-at-australias-etihad-stadium