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Puppyroach said:
FloatingWaffles said:

It's nice to see Microsoft is supporting PC more but the problem is that now there are always people in every single Xbox One exclusive video,thread,etc that say they hope it comes to PC or port beg for it to come to PC just because they don't want to buy an Xbox One.

I could see Microsoft putting games that probably won't boost hardware as much like Halo Wars 2, Fable Legends, etc on PC but I doubt they'll put the big hitter console sellers like Halo 5, Quantum Break, Scalebound, etc on PC because they need those to stay exclusive to give people a reason to buy the Xbox One.

If they just put every first party game of theirs on PC then they get rid of any reason for anyone to buy an Xbox One, so they need to keep the big hitter console sellers exclusive to the Xbox One.

But you play on console because you prefer to play on console, not because of the hardware specific exclusives. These games will remain exclusive to XBox, but MS is growing that community to be larger than anything Sony or Nintendo can match. You will not be able to play them on Steam, or Playstation or Nintendo. And the XBox gaming brand has consisted of Console+PC+Smartphone+Tablet for several years now, so this is just the next natural step.

This makes absolutely no sense. What is the point of there even being consoles without there being exclusives, exclusives are what GET people to buy a system because that is the only system you can play them on.

It's not about "Oh I prefer to play on console" it's about buying the console to get what you can only get on it, and if the games are on PC then that defeats any reason to even buy an Xbox One. 

It does not matter if you can't play them on Steam, Playstation, or Nintendo, you can still play them on something OTHER than an Xbox One which means they are not truly exclusive. 

Which is why Microsoft needs to keep a lot of them FULLY exclusive to the Xbox One, or else people will just look and say "Why should I pay $350 for this console when I can just play the "exclusives" it has on PC?".

Like I said, I can see some of the lesser system-seller games that probably won't boost that much hardware like Fable Legends, Halo Wars 2, etc going to PC, but they need to keep the big system seller games like Halo, Quantum Break, Scalebound, etc FULLY exclusive in order to keep giving reasons for people to buy an Xbox One. 



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Cartmanbrah said:
Risthel said:


You are comparing different generations and different Xbox division management. This gen, Microsoft is focusing more on pc and Windows 10 support. 

Meaning games that don't sell well or games Microsoft believes won't sell well might come to pc. Phil said he doesn't want to bring every single exclusive. Gears 4 r halo 5 Will never be on pc. Keep dreaming and telling yourself otherwise if it makes you happy. 

Ehy, if they bring all their exclusives except Halo and Gears I would be more than happy since I don't care about those two franchises. 



Out of the one's mentioned the only one that seems likely is Quantum Break since the studio are fans of PC gaming ...

Crackdown probably won't come since the previous installments didn't materialize on PC and Scalebound will likely stay exclusive too when we take into account publisher history with the devs ...



Puppyroach said:
Risthel said:
Puppyroach said:

But you play on console because you prefer to play on console, not because of the hardware specific exclusives. These games will remain exclusive to XBox, but MS is growing that community to be larger than anything Sony or Nintendo can match. You will not be able to play them on Steam, or Playstation or Nintendo. And the XBox gaming brand has consisted of Console+PC+Smartphone+Tablet for several years now, so this is just the next natural step.

Microsoft already said they are going to support Steam, so yes, pc gamers will be able to play these games on that platform. And of course without paying for Xbox Live.

Where did you read that?

EDIT: I looked at planned releases for Windows on XBox.com (for example Fable, Gears, Gigantic, Killer instinct) and they specifically target Windows10, meaning they will only sell on the Windows store for the XBox app.


I don't really think they are going to ignore the majority of pc gamers by ditching Steam, but we'll see. 



Really sad for X1 to they they can even consider the idea of taking away the 2 best exclusive it has



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FloatingWaffles said:
Puppyroach said:

But you play on console because you prefer to play on console, not because of the hardware specific exclusives. These games will remain exclusive to XBox, but MS is growing that community to be larger than anything Sony or Nintendo can match. You will not be able to play them on Steam, or Playstation or Nintendo. And the XBox gaming brand has consisted of Console+PC+Smartphone+Tablet for several years now, so this is just the next natural step.

This makes absolutely no sense. What is the point of there even being consoles without there being exclusives, exclusives are what GET people to buy a system because that is the only system you can play them on.

It's not about "Oh I prefer to play on console" it's about buying the console to get what you can only get on it, and if the games are on PC then that defeats any reason to even buy an Xbox One. 

It does not matter if you can't play them on Steam, Playstation, or Nintendo, you can still play them on something OTHER than an Xbox One which means they are not truly exclusive. 

Which is why Microsoft needs to keep a lot of them FULLY exclusive to the Xbox One, or else people will just look and say "Why should I pay $350 for this console when I can just play the "exclusives" it has on PC?".

Like I said, I can see some of the lesser system-seller games that probably won't boost that much hardware like Fable Legends, Halo Wars 2, etc going to PC, but they need to keep the big system seller games like Halo, Quantum Break, Scalebound, etc FULLY exclusive in order to keep giving reasons for people to buy an Xbox One. 

Just because it makes no sense to you doesn´t make it any less real. The main reason a person gets a console (unless you already are a PC gamer) is because of the plug-and-play factor. You don´t have to think about compatibility issues, if you need to upgrade the graphics card or RAM, you know that the games you get will always work on that machine. That is what differentiate most of the console crowd with PC gamers. What then makes a person choose a specific console is often times its exclusives compared to other consoles. Since the person has already decided on going console, it then doesn´t matter if the games are on PC aswell.

If MS release their exclusives on XBox PC+Console, which generates far more revenue than only releasing on PC or console, why shouldn´t they go with the former option? It still retains the exclusivity (meaning, you cannot get the games on Sony or Nintendo consoles) but the market expands. This is also why Steam is releasing their own line of consoles. Although they will most likely fail (just as MS did their first time around), they too see how gamers prefer different kinds of platforms depending on how they prefer to play games.



Protendo said:
Puppyroach said:

Where did you read that?

EDIT: I looked at planned releases for Windows on XBox.com (for example Fable, Gears, Gigantic, Killer instinct) and they specifically target Windows10, meaning they will only sell on the Windows store for the XBox app.

Think he's referring to this article: http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/08/10/gamescom-2015-microsoft-not-intending-to-compete-with-steam

Yeah, I have read that article and I believe Kevin Unangst is very misleading. He doesn´t actually state that XBox games will end up on Steam, but rather that they will aim to make sure that Steam runs great on Windows 10 and hope that more and more developers over time will joing the Windows store.



Puppyroach said:
FloatingWaffles said:
Puppyroach said:

But you play on console because you prefer to play on console, not because of the hardware specific exclusives. These games will remain exclusive to XBox, but MS is growing that community to be larger than anything Sony or Nintendo can match. You will not be able to play them on Steam, or Playstation or Nintendo. And the XBox gaming brand has consisted of Console+PC+Smartphone+Tablet for several years now, so this is just the next natural step.

This makes absolutely no sense. What is the point of there even being consoles without there being exclusives, exclusives are what GET people to buy a system because that is the only system you can play them on.

It's not about "Oh I prefer to play on console" it's about buying the console to get what you can only get on it, and if the games are on PC then that defeats any reason to even buy an Xbox One. 

It does not matter if you can't play them on Steam, Playstation, or Nintendo, you can still play them on something OTHER than an Xbox One which means they are not truly exclusive. 

Which is why Microsoft needs to keep a lot of them FULLY exclusive to the Xbox One, or else people will just look and say "Why should I pay $350 for this console when I can just play the "exclusives" it has on PC?".

Like I said, I can see some of the lesser system-seller games that probably won't boost that much hardware like Fable Legends, Halo Wars 2, etc going to PC, but they need to keep the big system seller games like Halo, Quantum Break, Scalebound, etc FULLY exclusive in order to keep giving reasons for people to buy an Xbox One. 

Just because it makes no sense to you doesn´t make it any less real. The main reason a person gets a console (unless you already are a PC gamer) is because of the plug-and-play factor. You don´t have to think about compatibility issues, if you need to upgrade the graphics card or RAM, you know that the games you get will always work on that machine. That is what differentiate most of the console crowd with PC gamers. What then makes a person choose a specific console is often times its exclusives compared to other consoles. Since the person has already decided on going console, it then doesn´t matter if the games are on PC aswell.

If MS release their exclusives on XBox PC+Console, which generates far more revenue than only releasing on PC or console, why shouldn´t they go with the former option? It still retains the exclusivity (meaning, you cannot get the games on Sony or Nintendo consoles) but the market expands. This is also why Steam is releasing their own line of consoles. Although they will most likely fail (just as MS did their first time around), they too see how gamers prefer different kinds of platforms depending on how they prefer to play games.

It's not that it makes no sense only to me, i'm talking about what you said. 

Do you honestly think that Microsoft taking all of their Xbox One exclusives and putting them on PC won't affect hardware sales of the Xbox One whatsoever?

Yes, even if you take into account that people do buy consoles for their more easy and ready-ness, exclusives are still a major factor that comes into play. It still doesn't change the fact that people can just look at the Xbox One and say "Why pay $350 for that when I can just play the "exclusives" it has on my PC". 

I understand what Microsoft is trying to do with PC, but like I said I don't see them putting any of the big hitter system sellers on there because they need them in order to give people a reason to buy an Xbox One. I thought it was obvious from the start what Microsoft was going to do, support PC more but still leave a lot of Xbox One full exclusives to keep hardware sales going, but some people seem to be surprised about this apparently and they won't be pleased unless absolutely everything comes to PC now according to how some people are reacting to this. 



There's a slight chance of them being released however its more the fact, how long are gamers willing to wait and hope? Also PC gaming is huge however there aren't many PC gamers with a Rig that's more powerful then a XB1 and PS4 so its not really worth it, I guess its good for those who refuse to own a X1 , but ill rather play Halo 5 now instead of playing Halo 5 when Halo 6 is releasing. That's just me.

Plus Phils statement clarifies to me that there's going to be a long wait before getting my hands on these gems. Its just not worth it. I would recommend those who are interested to buy the platform those games are built around.



Alan Wake was developed as an Xbox360 only game, but when the game didn't meet the expectations, they were able to port it to PC. That's what could happen with those games.

But I doubt they'll bring Gears or Halo to PC. After all, only the first Gears game was launched on PC, and only the two first Halo games did it, and the second one only did it to promote Vista and DX10.



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