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Acevil on 11 August 2015
Aeolus451 said:
Goatseye said:
Aeolus451 said:
 


Mafia is always associated with the italian mob in america. When someone says that mafia movie was good, it's not about the bloods or cripes (however it's spelled). If the game takes place in america, it's about the italian mafia.

Let me go watch Training Day and listen to what they call Russian Mafia.


That's my point, you have to say "russian" mafia so others get which one you mean. Plain ol' mafia only means "italian mafia". 


Truthfully it isn't even that, it is Sicillian Mafia more so. However they themselves never did call organization that name. 



 

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Goatseye on 11 August 2015
Acevil said:
Aeolus451 said:


That's my point, you have to say "russian" mafia so others get which one you mean. Plain ol' mafia only means "italian mafia". 


Truthfully it isn't even that, it is Sicillian Mafia more so. However they themselves never did call organization that name. 

Thanks mate.



Aeolus451 on 11 August 2015
Acevil said:
Aeolus451 said:


That's my point, you have to say "russian" mafia so others get which one you mean. Plain ol' mafia only means "italian mafia". 


Truthfully it isn't even that, it is Sicillian Mafia more so. However they themselves never did call organization that name. 


Regardless, mafia is asociated with the italian or sicilian mafia only. Movies, shows and books that are about "the mafia" is about the italian mobsters. 



Madword on 11 August 2015
Aeolus451 said:
Goatseye said:

Let me go watch Training Day and listen to what they call Russian Mafia.


That's my point, you have to say "russian" mafia so others get which one you mean. Plain ol' mafia only means "italian mafia". 

I agree when anyone says Mafia and it's associated with USA people automatically think Italian mafia. That doesnt disregard there are other mafia's out there but people already associate it with italian descent.

This is mainly because of the gangster movies and tv shows over the last 20 years that have mainly focussed on italian heritage mafia.



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Acevil on 11 August 2015
Aeolus451 said:
Acevil said:


Truthfully it isn't even that, it is Sicillian Mafia more so. However they themselves never did call organization that name. 


Regardless, mafia is asociated with the italian or sicilian mafia only. Movies, shows and books that are about "the mafia" is about the italian mobsters. 


That necessarily isn't the best defense. just because something is normally associated with one thing, doesn't mean it cannot be associated with others. Namely when the word itself in the simplist defination means organized crime syndicate. It is like if I took the word Pirate and just associated with 1700s Pirates, that wouldn't be correct, and yet people only think those pirates. 



 

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Kane1389 on 12 August 2015
Goatseye said:
Kane1389 said:
 

The word originated in Sicily and is almost always used to describe italian or italian-american crime syndicate when used alone. There can be other crime organisations with different ethnical backgrounds, but strictly and traditionally speaking, Mafia is italian 

There are Mexican mafia, Russian mafia, etc...

Mafia comes from a word that doesn't even relate to crime. You guys should stop this non sense already.

Americans in the 70's and 80's weren't even calling gangsters (any ethnicity) Mafias but the Mob.

I am not talking about the etymology of the word, I am talking about what the word has constantly been associated with since its inception



Mystro-Sama on 12 August 2015
Kane1389 said:
Goatseye said:
Kane1389 said:
 

The word originated in Sicily and is almost always used to describe italian or italian-american crime syndicate when used alone. There can be other crime organisations with different ethnical backgrounds, but strictly and traditionally speaking, Mafia is italian 

There are Mexican mafia, Russian mafia, etc...

Mafia comes from a word that doesn't even relate to crime. You guys should stop this non sense already.

Americans in the 70's and 80's weren't even calling gangsters (any ethnicity) Mafias but the Mob.

I am not talking about the etymology of the word, I am talking about what the word has constantly been associated with since its inception

I'm pretty sure your original argument was the definition of the word.



RJ_Sizzle on 12 August 2015
HoloDust said:

I think people have all sort of issues with Mafia 3. Just one example:




Now, everyone who played Mafia 1 remembers how authentic cars behaved vs how arcadish this shit looks.

As for setting - yeah, I'm with those who doesn't like it one bit and was actually hoping for some Las Vegas 60s Godfather alike stuff.

Looks like it's going full on GTA now. Realistically, old school Mafia would be a REALLY tough sell in this day and age.