pokoko said:
Lafiel said:
pokoko said:
I've already responded to you twice before this so, uh ... yeah.
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nah you responded once before and to a short one sentence post, in the mean time I had several others that better explained my points why I feel this was unjustified
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Yeah, I responded when you responded to me. It's not my fault if you didn't choose to "better explain" yourself by that point.
Look, you think only police should be responsible for their actions, I think everyone should be responsible for their actions. This situation was initiated by the man getting out of his car and acting incredibly stupid. If you don't think he has any responsibility for his actions at all, fine, but don't expect me to agree with you, and don't expect people who are in potentially dangerous situations to agree with you. It's common sense to not rush someone who is armed.
Also, if you don't want people to respond to your dumb jokes then don't make dumb jokes.
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huh? the intentionally ridiculous post wasn't directed at you, yet you responded to that one -> you clearly read the thread outside of direct responses, therefore I feel justified in assuming you read my other posts
I said before that the man acted outside of the guidelines he surely knew himself, yet I see no reason for the use of a weapon in the situation presented in the video. Getting tased is not "taking responsibility", apologizing and precisely complying with reasonable demands/orders after an effective de-escalation would've been.
You seem to think the risk in this case was super high, so the officer was justified in massively prioritizing personal safety instead of trying to de-escalate verbally, I have a hard time comming to the same conclusion based on the video. And if there was no massive risk (taking atleast some small risks afaik is part of the job description) I think it's the cops responsibility to aim for a best case scenario for all involved - tasing, cuffing and probably having the man to face more consequences is not best case.
And don't give me that vague "bad things happened before", ofcourse they happened before, but the chances are minimal - assuming a worst case all the time leads to bad decisions and a worse than necessary outcome in many many situations just to have a higher chance to prevent some very few worst cases.