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He's right, they shouldn't be afraid at all. I bet my ass TR will do about the same as Fallout 4 on launch week (X1 only, obviously). It'll be fine.



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WoodenPints said:
I think both these games will be great but out of the two I will be getting RoTR day one mainly because I haven't got the time to out into such a massive game along with the rest of the holiday titles, I will save Fallout 4 for the quieter times after the holiday period has passed and enjoy it instead of trying to rush through hundreds of hours game play asap.

I do think there will be quite a few who see it this way like myself but I still think Fallout 4 will outsell it but the sales for RoTR will still be healthy.

 

Wait, wait, wait... So you mean that it's useless to have too many games releasing in the Holliday season because we can't enjoy all of them fully, and it could be best to release games during other months of the year? 

 

Just to be sure, because it seems that a lot of people disagree with this ;) 



im getting both, so yay



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LipeJJ said:
He's right, they shouldn't be afraid at all. I bet my ass TR will do about the same as Fallout 4 on launch week (X1 only, obviously). It'll be fine.

I'd say TR will get outsold by Fallout (on the XB1) by 2:1 easily.



 

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GribbleGrunger said:
LipeJJ said:
He's right, they shouldn't be afraid at all. I bet my ass TR will do about the same as Fallout 4 on launch week (X1 only, obviously). It'll be fine.

I'd say TR will get outsold by Fallout (on the XB1) by 2:1 easily.


It may even be more than 2:1. Fallout has been on Amazon's hourly charts for a while now. I haven't seen TR on the hourly charts, as of yet. Plus, all 3 Pip-Boy Editions, sit on the top sellers of 2015 chart.



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kitler53 said:
MoHasanie said:
They really should be. They could easily delay it for a week or even a few days.


because a week later all those guys buying fallout 4 will be done with the game and ready for a new game but certainly couldn't be bothered to buy a game that's a full week old?

 

i'm sorry but this whole fallout will kill tomb raider thing is silly.   most people will decide which games they are buying this holiday based on their budget and hype for availible games.   release date is such a non-factor, one week won't change a thing.


and imagine if there was somebody that liked a game like tomb raider more than they liked fallout... if only that were possible. 



They are completely different genres; this is a given.

As much as there is a demand for open world games these days, not all consumers play them.

But, it's also a given that the typical game consumer plays multiple genres and will generally prioritize one type over the other. Given the choice between Fallout 4 and Tomb Raider, safe money goes to Fallout.

However, Tomb Raider is not debuting on the PS4, so it will have a different consumer base limited to the XBO. Who knows? Maybe the "play it first on Xbox" appeal will result in more XBO owners to play Tomb Raider before Fallout.

Either way, Fallout will take sales away from Tomb Raider. Any statements or claims to the contrary are simply in the interest of alleviating fear among developers who don't want to see their game perform below expectations and investors who would rather see higher numbers being sold.



TheGoldenBoy said:
Azzanation said:


Big differences. Sunset Overdrive is a new IP and Bayonetta 2 is on the wrong console. We are talking about one of the most recongised franchises in gamings history. Gamers know Tomb Raider and the last Tomb Raider was up there with the best Uncharted games of the generation. This sequal will speak for itself. If TR was a new IP competing agasint SW Battle Front, Fallout 4, Halo 5 etc then i will easily agree, however TR isnt a new IP, its been around longer then most of those games and why would FPS games even compare to a 3rd person action adventure title? Completely difference gaming audiences. Sci-fi and FPS fans will buy SW-BF, FO4 and Halo 5 while those who love Uncharted like gameplay will buy TR. Its almost like gamers think FM6 wont sell because Gears of War is releasing close to it.

Completely different audience.

There is a finite amount of money people will spend and the fact of the matter is that there is a greater chance that if someone can only get one game they'll pick Fallout 4 over Tomb Raider. I'm pretty sure Crystal Dynamics would have prefered if Fallout 4 wasn't releasing on the same day as them, but it isn't. So obviously they're going to say they're not scared. I still think the game is going to sell well, but it's sales are definitely going to get cannibalized by Fallout 4 and the massive games releasing around it.

Games like TR and Fallout 4 have legs, they will continue to sell thought out the holiday season which normally means people have alot more spending money in the first place. Also not every one is going to buy Fallout 4, thats a different audience altogether. To say *if someone can only get one game they'll pick Fallout 4 over Tomb Raider* is ridiculas, your comparing apples to oranges. If somehow TR is the same game as Fallout then yes, however its not, thats like saying Fallout will outsell Uncharted if they released at the same time. Not all of X1s audience is going to buy Fallout 4, becasue FO4 isnt going to sell 13 million copies, it might sell 2 million, and where does that leave the rest of the X1 owners?

Ill be picking TR over FO4 so your point of gamers will choose FO4 over TR is invalid.



Azzanation said:
TheGoldenBoy said:
Azzanation said:
*The quality of the game will speak for itself*

100% agree with this statement. Let the haters hate, good games sell regardless what's on the market.

I'm sure Sunset Overdrive, Bayonetta 2 and every other Platinum game sold great . . .


Big differences. Sunset Overdrive is a new IP and Bayonetta 2 is on the wrong console. We are talking about one of the most recongised franchises in gamings history. Gamers know Tomb Raider and the last Tomb Raider was up there with the best Uncharted games of the generation. This sequal will speak for itself. If TR was a new IP competing agasint SW Battle Front, Fallout 4, Halo 5 etc then i will easily agree, however TR isnt a new IP, its been around longer then most of those games and why would FPS games even compare to a 3rd person action adventure title? Completely difference gaming audiences. Sci-fi and FPS fans will buy SW-BF, FO4 and Halo 5 while those who love Uncharted like gameplay will buy TR. Its almost like gamers think FM6 wont sell because Gears of War is releasing close to it.

Completely different audience.

TR may be older than most of those but it's not more popular than most of the games releasing in the same time period.

Seems like you're forgetting on purpose that gamers can and often play a variety of games in different genres. It can be any combination of genres. There's no easy way to slice that up. Each game releasing in the same time period compete with eachother regardless of their genre. 

You're also "forgetting" that it's the holidays and everyone is following some sort of budget. Between getting gifts and traveling to visit family, most avid gamers will have enough for a few games but what games will they buy?

Halo, gears and fallout will be on most xbox one gamers must buy list. That's $180 right there. It's not the end of the world for a gamer to wait on a game. 



Aeolus451 said:
Azzanation said:
TheGoldenBoy said:
Azzanation said:
*The quality of the game will speak for itself*

100% agree with this statement. Let the haters hate, good games sell regardless what's on the market.

I'm sure Sunset Overdrive, Bayonetta 2 and every other Platinum game sold great . . .


Big differences. Sunset Overdrive is a new IP and Bayonetta 2 is on the wrong console. We are talking about one of the most recongised franchises in gamings history. Gamers know Tomb Raider and the last Tomb Raider was up there with the best Uncharted games of the generation. This sequal will speak for itself. If TR was a new IP competing agasint SW Battle Front, Fallout 4, Halo 5 etc then i will easily agree, however TR isnt a new IP, its been around longer then most of those games and why would FPS games even compare to a 3rd person action adventure title? Completely difference gaming audiences. Sci-fi and FPS fans will buy SW-BF, FO4 and Halo 5 while those who love Uncharted like gameplay will buy TR. Its almost like gamers think FM6 wont sell because Gears of War is releasing close to it.

Completely different audience.

TR may be older than most of those but it's not more popular than most of the games releasing in the same time period.

Seems like you're forgetting on purpose that gamers can and often play a variety of games in different genres. It can be any combination of genres. There's no easy way to slice that up. Each game releasing in the same time period compete with eachother regardless of their genre. 

You're also "forgetting" that it's the holidays and everyone is following some sort of budget. Between getting gifts and traveling to visit family, most avid gamers will have enough for a few games but what games will they buy?

Halo, gears and fallout will be on most xbox one gamers must buy list. That's $180 right there. It's not the end of the world for a gamer to wait on a game. 

Then what difference does it make if TR got pushed back next month? Its still the holiday season. Releasing TR early means its available for those who dont want to buy Fallout 4 etc. If TR doesnt sell because of another title in its first week, doesnt mean its not going to sell at all. Its better to make as much sales early then releasing it later anyway. TR has a fan following and it will sell regardless, it might not top the charts but does that matter? Mario Kart 8 still sells incredibly well even to today, if the game has legs then its not an issue and judging from CD's comments they have faith there game will do well. 

Fallout 4 might have the hype behind it but not all X1 owners will be intrested which leaves 80% of its audience to play other type of games. Varity doesnt hurt anybody and to me, TR is a day one buy and FO4 will come afterwards, they both still make there sales.