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KingdomHeartsFan said:
Guitarguy said:


PES wasn't exactly a killer seller though. This is not an Unreal engine we are talking about here where every developer and their dog are throwing money at Konami to use their engine, $80 million dollars is INSANE for a video game no matter how you slice it, especially a Japanese video game where they tend to be more conservative. GTAV cost something like $265 million but has sold something like 50 million copies across 5 platforms and was a staggered, cross generation release. Then you factor in the PC version. Rockstar essentially(and knowingly) double(triple)-dipped, much like studios putting out 'directors cuts' of DVDs/Blu-Rays 6-12 months after a standard release. MGSV, not matter how good it is, won't sell half that amount. It just does not have that universal appeal to gamers and casuals.

PS3/360 software sales are fleeting. MGSV will sell respectably enough on X1 whilst the PC version will probably be pirated by a significant amount of users. The PS4 is where most of its sales will come from but I think Konami won't like having to try and sell 10 million units just to see a decent return. $80 million dollars is far too much of a risk to justify just a decent return... My opinion anyway. Im sure the game will rock. Day one for me whatever happens.

If they sell 10m copies Konami will make over $250m.  They get roughly $27 cut from each game sold, they will easily turn profit.


The $27 per unit sold is only when it is sold at full retail price. We know that as the price of the game declines over time, the profit also diminishes. If it sells 10 million units at full RRP I will eat my hat lol. I'm just trying to see things from the other side of the coin.



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Guitarguy said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:

If they sell 10m copies Konami will make over $250m.  They get roughly $27 cut from each game sold, they will easily turn profit.


The $27 per unit sold is only when it is sold at full retail price. We know that as the price of the game declines over time, the profit also diminishes. If it sells 10 million units at full RRP I will eat my hat lol. I'm just trying to see things from the other side of the coin.

True but they only need to sell 3m at full price to make 80m, which should happen.  They won't have any trouble turning a profit on this game.



KingdomHeartsFan said:
Guitarguy said:


The $27 per unit sold is only when it is sold at full retail price. We know that as the price of the game declines over time, the profit also diminishes. If it sells 10 million units at full RRP I will eat my hat lol. I'm just trying to see things from the other side of the coin.

True but they only need to sell 3m at full price to make 80m, which should happen.  They won't have any trouble turning a profit on this game.


Fair point. I just don't think Konami would be happy with just turning a decent profit(ie  30-60 million profit).



ArchangelMadzz said:


Games are probably cheapest in the USA. MGSV will go on sale for about 80$+ in the UK.


huh?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Metal-Gear-Solid-Phantom-Pain/dp/B00D781HS6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1438618247&sr=8-1&keywords=metal+gear+solid+5

 

65$ includig sales taxes...



ethomaz said:
The Witcher 3 costs $67m between game and marketing.

I don't see the big deal here.


67$ for both only?
that's much less than 80m develpment only and way less than i thought.

the witcher is also on 3 platforms, while mgsV won't have any pc sales. only low last gen sales (without the still huge ps3 software sales in japan i suspect they wouldn't even bother to do the last gen version)


i believe the witcher 3 will sell more than mgs v lifetime
the wither 3 must be a huge commercial success

 



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endy.G said:

67$ for both only?
that's much less than 80m develpment only and way less than i thought.

the witcher is also on 3 platforms, while mgsV won't have any pc sales. only low last gen sales (without the still huge ps3 software sales in japan i suspect they wouldn't even bother to do the last gen version)


i believe the witcher 3 will sell more than mgs v lifetime
the wither 3 must be a huge commercial success

I really disagree with all your comments

$80m is for the game and marketing... I can be wrong but that is what I got from the original source.

MGSV is in more plataforms than The Witchers... that means it will cost more to developer to all these plataforms.

MGSV will sell a lot more than The Witcher 3... there is no comparision here... twice or more.

The Witcher 3 is a commercial success... MGSV will be too in day one.



ethomaz said:

endy.G said:

67$ for both only?
that's much less than 80m develpment only and way less than i thought.

the witcher is also on 3 platforms, while mgsV won't have any pc sales. only low last gen sales (without the still huge ps3 software sales in japan i suspect they wouldn't even bother to do the last gen version)


i believe the witcher 3 will sell more than mgs v lifetime
the wither 3 must be a huge commercial success

I really disagree with all your comments

$80m is for the game and marketing... I can be wrong but that is what I got from the original source.

MGSV is in more plataforms than The Witchers... that means it will cost more to developer to all these plataforms.

MGSV will sell a lot more than The Witcher 3... there is no comparision here... twice or more.

The Witcher 3 is a commercial success... MGSV will be too in day one.


no the 80m is only for development and even as of april 2015
depending on the staff numbers that still works on metal gear etc to finsh and polish the game, this could also increase to 85 million until launch in september :O

Jesus, this Nikkei article on Konami. $80+ million spent on MGS5's dev as of April if it's to be believed.

https://twitter.com/iiotenki

 

ofc only if the figures form the report are right and tue. there can't be 100% certainty
but they say development costs only
i can't see how you can still be so positive about all this news. this is very bad and even sad for konami

 

for comparison:
watch dogs was 67m $ development costs...

 

 

edit: bum i'm wrong at one point. this game does come to pc. just later.
sorry for that. in that case i see it selling more than witcher 3, if all is said and done



That's pretty expensive, but I have no doubt this game is going to end up bringing in a pretty good profit.



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It's a good budget, but not that far from MGS4, right?



ethomaz said:

endy.G said:

67$ for both only?
that's much less than 80m develpment only and way less than i thought.

the witcher is also on 3 platforms, while mgsV won't have any pc sales. only low last gen sales (without the still huge ps3 software sales in japan i suspect they wouldn't even bother to do the last gen version)


i believe the witcher 3 will sell more than mgs v lifetime
the wither 3 must be a huge commercial success

I really disagree with all your comments

$80m is for the game and marketing... I can be wrong but that is what I got from the original source.

 

Read it again.