Augen said:
Spike0503 said:
What exactly is your point?. Due to his small stature that was the best way he had to fight his enemies during the prequels (Dooku and Palpatine). It was a fighting style of his own and a great showing of his caliber as an elder jedi master. I have to disagree with you, it wasn't degrading in any way shape or form. Having a flexible fighting style doesn't take anything from his character as a wise, intelligent master.
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Part of it was how I saw Yoda in Empire and Jedi. We never saw him use a light sabre and wasn't really the point of Luke's training either. He spoke about a state of mind and clearing thoughts and emotions. His power was how he saw the universe on a high plane than others. His demonstration was to lift an X-Wing out of a swamp with his mind. Despite being small and centuries old he did something that left Luke humbled.
To me Yoda is not a warrior in that sense, he is a teacher that is above "crude matter". In real life he would be akin to the Dalai Lama, parting wisdom and teachings to make pupils better beings as much as better warriors.
The best way for Yoda to fight would be his mastery of the force. Physically he is not imposing and could not over power anyone and in his advanced years he could not out maneuver anyone. So, why is Yoda so highly respected? It shows what is valued by Jedi is not ultimately power, but rather wisdom and understanding.
If I were to construct a Yoda scene in the prequels I'd have a monster of an opponent, big and ferocious filled with rage spinning his/her light sabre at this pitiful little creature. Only to see all that pride stripped away as this master attempts to talk and then failing that, with a shake of his weary head waves his hand smashing the opponent into the wall or ground. That would be powerful imagery that demonstrates Yoda and fits in line with the world and character. Don't even need a battle honestly. Could have Yoda convert troubled Sith from the dark side showing his patience and understanding and how tragic it is to him lose wayward Jedi.
My point is the prequels missed what Yoda was and see only value in fighting with a light sabre. A battle between the Emperor and Yoda should have shown how far they were above their knights. The Emperor using matter as an attack with lightning or other elements and Yoda deflecting and moving objects. Be some great dialogue about the nature of beings and the force with the Emperor trying to cloud Yoda's mind and Yoda showing he is above such tricks. The Emperor even chides Luke in Jedi with his "Jedi weapon" and yet there he is in the senate spinning and all with his own. The winner such a contest is simply the stronger one, the better fighter, and I find that to make Yoda less than what he was in the old films.
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I understand what you are saying but they did have a force duel both in Yoda vs Dooku and Yoda vs Palpatine. In the duel between Yoda and Dooku they reached a stalemate so that's why they continued with the lightsabers. In my opinion, the use of lightsabers is a crucial part of being a Jedi and also of being a Sith. It doesn't mean that a Jedi or a Sith cannot be more profficent in using the force, but there needs to be some skill with the lightsaber. I don't think there is anything wrong with a Jedi master of Yoda's caliber showing his combat skills in the way he did in those duels. There is a certain finesse and a degree of wisdom in using such a weapon effectively. You can see this in the duel between Obi-wan and General Grievous, Grievous attacked him savagely with many different lightsabers at the same time yet Obi-wan's defense with a single lightsaber was enough to overpower him.
That said, I do agree that perhaps they could've shown the force being used in different, perhaps more creative ways rather than the same old telekinesis and Sith lightning considering both Yoda and Palpatine were the absolute powers of both the light and dark side of the force.
