spemanig said:
Crisis averted. |
Yeah I'm sure they're just dying to repeat the same hardware setup that led them to their lowest hardware sales since they started making both a console and handheld.
Yet you're sure they're just dying to create a platform that will be ludicrously expensive to develop for any way you look at it.
| Soundwave said: Yeah I'm sure they're just dying to repeat the same hardware setup that led them to their lowest hardware sales since they started making both a console and handheld. |
Right, because dual screens are what did them in. Not being underpowered, overpriced, lacking in 3rd party games, terrible branding, slow library starts, and an inconsistant flow of quality exclusives.
What really did them in was the two screen set up.
Dual screens are staying. That much is obvious.
the wii u trippled xbox 360´s gflops and failed
I think you're on the right track here, though the details are probably a bit off. I don't see why there would be more than one home console, and I doubt the home console will be a beast. It will be easier to scale if the home console doesn't eclipse the handheld. Also I think they'll want to keep the price down. I'm thinking the home console will be a bit more powerfull than the PS4/XBoxone, probably just enough to run 1080p easily.
| WookieSquatch said: I think you're on the right track here, though the details are probably a bit off. I don't see why there would be more than one home console, and I doubt the home console will be a beast. It will be easier to scale if the home console doesn't eclipse the handheld. Also I think they'll want to keep the price down. I'm thinking the home console will be a bit more powerfull than the PS4/XBoxone, probably just enough to run 1080p easily. |
It's impossible to have better than PS4 performance in a handheld, heat limitations rule that out for another 5+ years.
Soundwave said:
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Agreed, that's why I specified the home console. The Portable will probably be more like WiiU level at best depending on when they release it. But I'm pretty sure the whole point of the NX is to provide a highly scaleable framework so that they can still run the same games.
| Soundwave said: We accept multiple handheld variants, I think we can try two different console variants for a change. It's just a matter of on this board, if it's a slightly new idea, most people game traditionalists can't wrap their head around it. It's very hard for Nintendo to make one single console that makes everyone happy given their market position and their need to always provide a family-centric option (which then alienates core gamers and teenagers). I say forget it. It's not 1988 anymore, one size does not fit all people, give them the choice, if one SKU doesn't sell very well, well then just phase it out, no big deal. It's up to the consumer to decide whether they care enough about 1080P with higher end lighting/textures and are willing to pay the premium for it. For a 30-year-old hardcore gamer in Seattle, maybe that's what he wants. For a gamer in Tokyo who just want to play Splatoon 2 ... that mini-Nntendo console sure looks good. And truth be told Nintendo DOES have two console variants right now, pretty much every retailer still carries the regular Wii on top of the Wii U. So even that is not technically true, Nintendo does not have just one console right now. If you walk into a store today, the "Nintendo section" is Wii, Wii U, 2DS, 3DS XL, New 3DS, and perhaps even some regular 3DS dead stock. That's two consoles, and like four (lol) handheld revisions. That's not simple at all. XBox 360 and PS3 aren't going anywhere either, those will be sold next to the XB1 and PS4 probably for another two years minimum. What I'm suggesting is trimming down this: Wii, Wii U, 2DS, 3DS, 3DS XL, New 3DS XL, Amiibo. 3DS games don't run on Wii or Wii U (duh), Wii U games don't run on Wii but Wii games run on Wii U. One N3DS game so far doesn't run on 3DS, 2DS, or 3DS XL. Amiibos work on Wii U and New 3DS, but not 2DS, 3DS, 3DS XL without an adaptor and not on Wii at all. Simple right? lol. down to NX Portable, NX Mini-Console, NX Pro-Console, Amiibo. All games and Amiibo are supported by which ever you choose. |
Your mixing up hardware and software. Nintendo's new venture sounds like a platform where hardware and software unify, just the I/O change depending on the device, but software will be similar or compatible (maybe on a title to title basis, not everything needs to work everywhere).
Nintendo's previous handheld versions are escalated, releasing them as years pass by. But I can understand why you'd think a more powerful console would be nice, as it could try get the "cores", it's just a matter of getting more substantial software which is "corer" than Nintendo's own.
Nintendo has two variants of their handheld and home consoles, but the only support their latest one. The work on DS/Wii has already been done. For a single title to work on three different settings out of the gate requieres additional work preparing textures, optimizing each hardware, etc. iOS is there at this point, but each additional hardware to its platform has been added yearly in a escalated manner. So, sure release a Bowser console, but a year after the brothers.
| JNK said: the wii u trippled xbox 360´s gflops and failed |
Tripled? So you're saying WiiU packs 720GFLOPS? Oh dear.
The ghost of Zero is strong with this one.
HoloDust said:
The ghost of Zero is strong with this one. |
xbox 360 is 115 gflops as far as i know. 3x115 isnt 720 gflops.
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