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Soundwave on 27 June 2015

Tegra X1 is a decent chip, but apparently PowerVR (Imagination) has an even better one already ... the 16nm GT7900.

It pumps out 800 GFLOPS vs. 500 for the Tegra X1. And the chip is apparently very cheap and well suited for microconsoles.

I could see Nintendo choosing a chip like that (they could simply scale it down very easily for a handheld, so boom, shared library) or getting AMD to make them a mobile equivalent.



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Jumpin on 27 June 2015

The vast majority of people don't care about power, what they care about is what the product can offer them. If what it offers are ugly low end versions of games that are better elsewhere, then it only diminishes the appeal.

Yeah the Wii was less powerful than PS3 or 360, but it also offered users a lot of very interesting software and play mechanics. Lots of exclusive material. It wasn't a console where you played cheap versions of Xbox games.



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zorg1000 on 27 June 2015
twintail said:
zorg1000 said:

Ultimately it's about freedom of choice, do u prefer playing in short bursts or on the go? Than get the handheld variant. Do u prefer playing on a big TV or local multiplayer with family/friends? Than get the console variant. Do u prefer certain games one way and certain games the other way? Than get both.

Not everybody simply chooses Nintendo handhelds over consoles just because they prefer handhelds better. The handhelds are usually quite a bit cheaper in terms of hardware &:software while also having a much larger software library. Get rid of those barriers and it now just comes down to what form factor u prefer.


There is a rather obvious trend when it comes to Nintendo hardware. And that is that their handhelds are far more popular worldwide than their consoles.

This continued success (arguable with 3DS) in the handheld space, coupled with the fact that the the PS4 and X1 keep pushing forward in the console space and mobile games seen as a largely on the move experience, I think its going to be pretty expected that the handheld is what catches on, and not the console. Unless of course it is heavily gimped compared to the console edition.

i can see the NX being more popular than the WiiU. Bit I think people will stay decidely more handheld unless the value of owning a handheld continues to decline. if you tell me that handhelds are becoming less popular would be the reason its fair game for NX in both its versions, then I would agree with you.

because that is pretty much the only reason that could potentially make NX console the go to device.

Of course I believe the handheld will still be more popular, I'm not arguing against that, but that doesn't matter as long as the console side sells enough to be relevant & profitable. For example, if it's something like NX Portable-70 million & NX Console-30 million than that's certainly enough to be worthwhile for Nintendo.



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bunchanumbers on 27 June 2015
twintail said:
zorg1000 said:

It's not simply android games that he's implying will cause NX to sell well. He also mentions to unification of the console & handheld side of Nintendo so that all or most games will be playable on either device. Wii U is a $300 device that only has less than half of the Nintendo games released this generation and very little 3rd party support, in the OP's proposal NX will be a $200 console with 100% of Nintendo's support and solid 3rd party support, that makes it a far more compelling purchase than Wii U.

 

If they are going to unify their console and handheld but as 2 seperate device, who would waste their money on what is being proposed here? You are better off just buying the handheld: you get mobile gaming in the way it is meant to be played, plus you get all the Nintendo first party support.

As a handheld, you have a win-win situation. You dont have that with a console approach. 

Having a handheld and a console that play practically the same game is going to result in one of these falling to the side. Nintendo's handheld sector still caters to casual gamers (who are mostly a mobile on the go market). A console does not. And having the option of 2, I am pretty certain most ppl around the world will stick with the handheld (especially since there wont be a Vita successor I think and because its more familiar to a larger userbase currently) as opposed to getting the console when there will be much better options in both the X1 and PS4 at the same time.


The answer to that is easy. The handheld market is dying off thanks to mobile. Nintendo is hedging their bet in case handheld alone doesn't fly. Its a smart move in the long run too because there is no guarantee that their next handheld will be a hit. Besides there is no guarantee that their next console won't be a hit either. Consoles just sell in the west, but handhelds sell in Japan.



Pavolink on 29 June 2015
Soundwave said:
Tegra X1 is a decent chip, but apparently PowerVR (Imagination) has an even better one already ... the 16nm GT7900.

It pumps out 800 GFLOPS vs. 500 for the Tegra X1. And the chip is apparently very cheap and well suited for microconsoles.

I could see Nintendo choosing a chip like that (they could simply scale it down very easily for a handheld, so boom, shared library) or getting AMD to make them a mobile equivalent.


That sounds very good, but will that chip be able to do better graphics than Wii U?



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