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Forums - Gaming - NX doesn´t need third party support (to survive)

 

Do you agree?

100% 19 8.84%
 
For the most part 15 6.98%
 
Kind of 26 12.09%
 
Not really 39 18.14%
 
I fully disagree 103 47.91%
 
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Darwinianevolution said:
Goodnightmoon said:
Darwinianevolution said:
I agree with this for the most part. I love the Fusion idea and I hope Nintendo goes all the way on it. I only see one problems with your logic: Handheld games and home console games don't take the same time and resources to make. If Nintendo doesn't organise teir budgets and teams correctly, we could see them making too many handheld-like titles instead of the big home console-like ones. And that could annoy people with both models or the home console only.

Is not going to be the same number of games probably, but it will be far superior number than now for WiiU, and they can continue to do some cheap games if the the console is able to make it look beautifull on the big screen, Imagine Luigi´s Mansion Dark moon at 1080p 60fps with antialiasing and some extra effects, it would look nice enough.

So they can:

1. Make all their games more ambitius than now
2. Keep doing some cheaper games as with their handhelds and some bigger games as with their homeconsoles

That brings up another problem, how would they price their games? Handheld games cost around 40€, and home console games cost around 50-60€. Would Nintendo unify the prices, or would they price each game individually?

That´s not a problem, they are already flexible with its prices, some games like Captain Toad, Splatoon and Yoshi are 40$ here in europe (CT in US too) Tropical freeze was 50$

Cheaper games will be at 40$ and expensive games at 60$, probably. 



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teigaga said:
Good luck fitting Wii U into a 3DS's form factor alongside a decent screen, powerful battery etc for a $200 retail price in the near future.

That aside, you're right. A Nintendo handheld doesn't need massive third party support as we've seen from the 3DS. The thing about this model is that its essentially Nintendo giving up on the home console market.

Why all people thinks the portable side of the console will be as big as the homeconsole side?

I think that if NX is Nintendo fusion the console will be like WiiU but more little, the difference is, the gamepad will be able to play the same games with less resolution and less stuff in general, and when you play on TV the other part of the console will do the rest of the job, making it more powerfull as a home console than as a handheld.

I´m thinking in a console with 2 parts. One conected to the TV and one independent.



You do realize that most of the games on their handhelds are 3rd party?

They wouldn't be able to make games fast enough to support it with JUST Nintendo games.

Can the console succeed in the scenario you just described? Maybe, but like you mentioned only a moderate success. But I guess it doesn't matter if their in the lead, I know it doesn't to me.

Third parties have become a big part of the gaming scene. People want variety, without it Nintendo will just make another secondary console as you also mentioned.

I agree it can succeed without them, to a degree. But I disagree that it doesn't NEED them. If anything, 3rd parties don't need Nintendo to succeed, they have Sony and MS platforms to make games for.



Without 3rd party support, NX will be dead faster than WiiU. The market for Nintendo games is very limited and narrow, and withoit other games it will be near impossible to sell it, regardless of the price.
And if you believe that it will cost $200 for two systems, you are in for a big surprise (unless they decide that Gamecube level quality is what customers are willing to accept).



cannonballZ said:
You do realize that most of the games on their handhelds are 3rd party?

They wouldn't be able to make games fast enough to support it with JUST Nintendo games.

The top 10 of best selling games in 3DS are all first party games.





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Guitarguy said:
A $200 home console/handheld hybrid... At that price it won't even have Wii U graphical ability. Good luck with that,

Truth is - everey four years you get the double amount of performance at half of the price.

So its only a question of time when a 200$ Wii U successor will deliver the same performance as a PS4.

As the real next gen GPUs and APUs are just around the corner and doing a quantum leap by utilizing HBM - the mentioned time frame can be even shorter...



Burek said:
Without 3rd party support, NX will be dead faster than WiiU. The market for Nintendo games is very limited and narrow, and withoit other games it will be near impossible to sell it, regardless of the price.
And if you believe that it will cost $200 for two systems, you are in for a big surprise (unless they decide that Gamecube level quality is what customers are willing to accept).

It also goes against all Nintendo pricing models to date.  They aren't exactly in any hurry to drop hardware price as parts/labor costs decline, so I think it's unrealistic and against all historical evidence, to suggest they'd do otherwise.



Nintendo has always had to build their own success first... That's always been the case. If they can start off well with the NX, then the 3rd parties will jump on board to leech off the success.



Current gaming platforms - Switch, PlayStation 4, Xbox One, Wii U, New 3DS, PC

Gamecube proved that even at $ 99,- Nintendo's exclusive line-up is not enough for a good selling system(and the Gamecube actually got some 3rd party support to).



AnthonyW86 said:
Gamecube proved that even at $ 99,- Nintendo's exclusive line-up is not enough for a good selling system(and the Gamecube actually got some 3rd party support to).

Gamecube was not a handheld too, GBA sold 80m with similar conditions, even the same price.