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You didnt understand the meaning of his sentence, i translated it for you

" We didnt want to show it and then disappoint people when they would learn that it's coming on NX in superior version :( "



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

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Oh Reggie... Looks like Reggie doesn't understand how to keep a hype train going. Which is a shame. Nintendo really screwed up on their E3 event. No Fatal Frame, No Devil's 3rd, no mention of Platinum Games for Star Fox, no Project Treasure, etc. etc. etc. There's just too many reasons to list. Just when you think they finally figured out how to do a E3 with 2014, here comes 2015 to make us realize we're right back at square one.



Lol... Just... Lol...



bunchanumbers said:

Oh Reggie... Looks like Reggie doesn't understand how to keep a hype train going. Which is a shame. Nintendo really screwed up on their E3 event. No Fatal Frame, No Devil's 3rd, no mention of Platinum Games for Star Fox, no Project Treasure, etc. etc. etc. There's just too many reasons to list. 

No FAST Racing Neo, which was the surprise hit of Treehouse. No softening the blow of Amiibo Crossing by mentioning it was free to play. (Still no excuse, but at least would have mitigated some of the harm this game's announcement did them)



RolStoppable said:
Ruler said:

But it shows that Zelda is overvalued by nintendo fans if a footage for a known to be released game would make such a difference in the perception of the conference. 

Of course it's overvalued. Just look at last year's Digital Event. Newly announced Wii U games were Captain Toad (spinoff), Kirby (another spinoff), Project Robo (not to be seen again), Project Guard (not to be seen again), a barebones Star Fox demo and Devil's Third (quickly dubbed as Devil's Turd). There were no big announcements, but there was a Zelda U trailer, so Nintendo had already won E3 based on that alone. This year was more or less the same in terms of announcements, but the perception is like day and night.

You forgot about the goty that is Splatoon. ;)

Also the major improvement of Yoshi's Woolly World.

Captain Toad and Splatoon is still vastly better than anything shown of at this year's E3. Combine that with Zelda reveal and you have a winner.

This year we got:

Cheap Mario tennis game

Cheap 3DS Zelda game

Cheap and horrible 3DS Metroid game

Cheap and horrible Animal Crossing: amiibo festival

We're not complaining about the quantity, but the quality.

The only good parts about E3 were SMT x FE good footage, Yo-kai Watch releases in 2015 in North America, Fast Racing Neo and Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam. So third parties had better offerings than Nintendo... Alpha Dream and Atlus are third party studios after all. Even if the former works exclusively for Nintendo.

And then people dare say Nintendo has no third party support. :D

Oh and Yoshi's Woolly World is also made by a third party studio and was one of the better games shown off.



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curl-6 said:
bunchanumbers said:

Oh Reggie... Looks like Reggie doesn't understand how to keep a hype train going. Which is a shame. Nintendo really screwed up on their E3 event. No Fatal Frame, No Devil's 3rd, no mention of Platinum Games for Star Fox, no Project Treasure, etc. etc. etc. There's just too many reasons to list. 

No FAST Racing Neo, which was the surprise hit of Treehouse. No softening the blow of Amiibo Crossing by mentioning it was free to play. (Still no excuse, but at least would have mitigated some of the harm this game's announcement did them)


yup. Also should have had Splatoon news in there and some of the mini Smash direct in there too. Nintendo really messed themselves up by not keeping this stuff to the Direct. And omg FAST racing. That game looks awesome. I thought that game deserved its own segment instead of some lady who never made a game or designed anything knitting yoshis.



Yooka said:
RolStoppable said:
Ruler said:

But it shows that Zelda is overvalued by nintendo fans if a footage for a known to be released game would make such a difference in the perception of the conference. 

Of course it's overvalued. Just look at last year's Digital Event. Newly announced Wii U games were Captain Toad (spinoff), Kirby (another spinoff), Project Robo (not to be seen again), Project Guard (not to be seen again), a barebones Star Fox demo and Devil's Third (quickly dubbed as Devil's Turd). There were no big announcements, but there was a Zelda U trailer, so Nintendo had already won E3 based on that alone. This year was more or less the same in terms of announcements, but the perception is like day and night.

You forgot about the goty that is Splatoon. ;)

Also the major improvement of Yoshi's Woolly World.

Captain Toad and Splatoon is still vastly better than anything shown of at this year's E3. Combine that with Zelda reveal and you have a winner.

This year we got:

Cheap Mario tennis game

Cheap 3DS Zelda game

Cheap and horrible 3DS Metroid game

Cheap and horrible Animal Crossing: amiibo festival

We're not complaining about the quantity, but the quality.

The only good parts about E3 were SMT x FE good footage, Yo-kai Watch releases in 2015 in North America, Fast Racing Neo and Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam. So third parties had better offerings than Nintendo... Alpha Dream and Atlus are third party studios after all. Even if the former works exclusively for Nintendo.

And then people dare say Nintendo has no third party support. :D

Agreed, even if you remove the Zelda trailer, Nintendo's 2014 show blew this year's completely out of the water. They actually announced quality new games, not cheap trash.



bunchanumbers said:
curl-6 said:

No FAST Racing Neo, which was the surprise hit of Treehouse. No softening the blow of Amiibo Crossing by mentioning it was free to play. (Still no excuse, but at least would have mitigated some of the harm this game's announcement did them)

yup. Also should have had Splatoon news in there and some of the mini Smash direct in there too. Nintendo really messed themselves up by not keeping this stuff to the Direct. And omg FAST racing. That game looks awesome. I thought that game deserved its own segment instead of some lady who never made a game or designed anything knitting yoshis.

Exactly. Who the f*ck thought we'd rather see some chick talking about knitting or Miyamoto yapping on about shrines and foxes rather than this:



Y'know I'm not going to kill Nintendo over this.

It's fairly obvious they are likely planning to make a NX version, so they can't show it now. Better to just stay quiet about it.

But there's not a lot they can do. People can get upset, but company-wise if that's the direction they're going then it's the correct business move. I know fans are going to stomp their feet and get angry, but it is a business at the end of the day.

Dual releasing TP on the Wii launch window was one of the smartest things they've done in the last 10 years. You will enjoy the game one way or another when it's released, but for Nintendo this is likely their most expensive game project ever, they can't just screw around with it and let it release on a system with such a lower userbase. 

It's either that or massively cut the budget/scale of the game down probably, but the fans probably don't understand that either. Some times you have to be the "bad parent" even if the kids aren't going to like your decision. 

Also not burning a "real" Animal Crossing game on the Wii U ... again 100% the correct business decision. They need games like for the NX/next-gen portable launch window, Wii U is a lost cause market wise. 



People keep posting stuff Reggie says and act surprised or make all the same reactions... but I think you all should know by now why Reggie says this stuff to begin with.

If you don't know what he's doing, he's basically telling people something to try to calm them down, because the real reason would likely not be as effective on the average person. Do you think Reggie cares about people like us, who knows this isn't true?