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The problem with running PS3 games on the PS4 is that the Cell is stronger than the PS4's cpu, and it had a crazy ass architecture. It'd be stupendously difficult to do, and it would compete with PSNow, so they won't do it.



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Roronaa_chan said:
walsufnir said:


How does a remaster have a worse/better input delay? Ok, if we count the SF4-port to PS4 but that's an exception to the rule. And how does a remaster make the image worse of a game?


No, i'm saying the opposite. Games running in BC are worse than remasters. So if BC is better than PSNow because PSnow has a lower quality experience than remasters are better than BC because BC is a lower quality experience.


Of course they are worse. But they are the same on the console which enables bc, sometimes even better than they were. PSNow makes the game worse than it once was, due to input delay and compression. Of course remasters look better than before, that's why you pay twice. For bc you don't pay twice.



walsufnir said:


Of course they are worse. But they are the same on the console which enables bc, sometimes even better than they were. PSNow makes the game worse than it once was, due to input delay and compression. Of course remasters look better than before, that's why you pay twice. For bc you don't pay twice.


Nobody "pays twice" necessarily.. If someone buys a remaster or plays a game on PSNow they might have never paid for it before. The only reason I want PSNow to come to europe is because I'd like to play some PS3 games I missed. And there are advantages; no downloading (so no HDD space taken either), no need for a PS4 (I can play on the go with my Vita) and I can finish plenty of games within a single subscription, making it cheaper than actually going out and buying those games for PS3 (or for PS4 if it had BC enabled). Even then it's just something I'll "just do" and then move on. Main game time is for new games.

If PS4 enabled PS3 BC right now... I'd play nothing on it. I have 0 reasons to pick up one of my PS3 games and put it on my PS4. They're still too fresh while getting no tech improvements at all.



Roronaa_chan said:
walsufnir said:


Of course they are worse. But they are the same on the console which enables bc, sometimes even better than they were. PSNow makes the game worse than it once was, due to input delay and compression. Of course remasters look better than before, that's why you pay twice. For bc you don't pay twice.


Nobody "pays twice" necessarily.. If someone buys a remaster or plays a game on PSNow they might have never paid for it before. The only reason I want PSNow to come to europe is because I'd like to play some PS3 games I missed. And there are advantages; no downloading (so no HDD space taken either), no need for a PS4 (I can play on the go with my Vita) and I can finish plenty of games within a single subscription, making it cheaper than actually going out and buying those games for PS3 (or for PS4 if it had BC enabled). Even then it's just something I'll "just do" and then move on. Main game time is for new games.

If PS4 enabled PS3 BC right now... I'd play nothing on it. I have 0 reasons to pick up one of my PS3 games and put it on my PS4. They're still too fresh while getting no tech improvements at all.

So opinions differ. With a Vita on the go you have even worse internet access and you play on a smaller screen. Not to mention there are genres where streaming is just no option because of the delay. It also requires you to have constantly internet access, with bc you only need it to download the game which doesn't prevent you playing old games while your internet is off.

Either way, you prefer the Sony way, I prefer the MS way and that's it. We can exchange arguments back and forth but I don't think it'll add anything new to the discussion. For example what is cheaper is not objective but depends on how fast and often and intensively one plays which makes it tough to decide objectively which solution is better so in the end it is just personal preference like this conversation shows.



Give me PS1/PS2 BC with upres (like on PC) AND trophy support (as per the patent). I don't even care if the latter 2 are only available through downloadable ISOs (disc BCs could be just similar to how PS1 BCs is done on PS3). Give me that Sony. Give me that now.



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Wait until MS provide PC game compatibility when they release Windows 10. Now that should shake up the industry.



Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
Mr Puggsly said:


What if they... I dunno... sold 360 games on the X1 market place?

Kinda like how Sony sells PS1 and PS2 games in the PS Store.

touche, I was assuming we were only talking about playing 360 discs on Xb1s not playing 360 games.

Being able to use your discs for BC was one thing, but having access to your digital content tells me they want to push 360 games on their market place.

Games with Gold has suddently become more interesting if we can always use those "free" 360 games on the X1. Some X1 games will also include digital copies of 360 games free.



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walsufnir said:
deskpro2k3 said:
if you already own ps3 games... then shouldn't you have a ps3? And 40% of ps4 owners didnt own a ps3.


At least you once had. If it dies, you have to buy the console again.


This ain't about me, but I still have my first gen ps3, it still plays fine, and if it dies I won't care because I don't play ps3 games anymore. I've beatin my games, collected their trophies, I can sell my games. main reason I have a ps4 is to play ps4 games in the first place. No big deal.



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vkaraujo said:
Well, what would they remaster if they did?

Well, if MS can have BC and are releasing a AAA remaster later this year, I'm sure Sony can find a compromise somewhere. They always copy ms anyway :D



And they shouldn't. I much rather have Sony's focus being on current games rather then trying to implement backwards compatibility.



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