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Azzanation on 17 June 2015

I think the problem is the best PS4 games are actually timed or multiplats. Games like No Mans Sky, FF7, SF5 and Shenmue 3 are games that were really the shows highlights yet aren't exclusive compared to there competition which had there best games exclusives. UC4, Dreams and Horizon are great exclusives but arent enough, as for The Last Guardian, I don't see it being any good and games like Rigs, Star Ocean 5, Persona 5, Nier 2 and Final Fantasy Worlds aren't really system sellers and I can see these games heading to Steam at some point. This E3 was great for both Sony and MS but still need to see more 1st party games.



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kitler53 on 17 June 2015

it's not a sentiment,.. it's a carefully crafted counter-argument.



kitler53 on 17 June 2015
Azzanation said:
I think the problem is the best PS4 games are actually timed or multiplats. Games like No Mans Sky, FF7, SF5 and Shenmue 3 are games that were really the shows highlights yet aren't exclusive compared to there competition which had there best games exclusives. UC4, Dreams and Horizon are great exclusives but arent enough, as for The Last Guardian, I don't see it being any good and games like Rigs, Star Ocean 5, Persona 5, Nier 2 and Final Fantasy Worlds aren't really system sellers and I can see these games heading to Steam at some point. This E3 was great for both Sony and MS but still need to see more 1st party games.

you mean like tomb raider, dead rising, ryse, cuphead, d4, ori and the blind forest, fable, gigantic, project spark, titanfall, gears remaster, plants vs zombies, killer instinct, sea of thieves...

..maybe you missed the conference yesterday but xbox is becoming pc.  larry responded to a tweet asking for a pc port of master cheif collection saying "message recieved".  they alluded to gears 4 and forza going to pc too.

 

SF5 and shenmue 3 or ps4 console exlusives,.. don't bash ps4 for that when almost every xbox exclusive is on or going to be one pc now including most of their E3 2015 show.  don't pretend ps4s exclusive exclusives aren't exclusive because to you they "aren't enough".



DerNebel on 17 June 2015
kitler53 said:
Azzanation said:
I think the problem is the best PS4 games are actually timed or multiplats. Games like No Mans Sky, FF7, SF5 and Shenmue 3 are games that were really the shows highlights yet aren't exclusive compared to there competition which had there best games exclusives. UC4, Dreams and Horizon are great exclusives but arent enough, as for The Last Guardian, I don't see it being any good and games like Rigs, Star Ocean 5, Persona 5, Nier 2 and Final Fantasy Worlds aren't really system sellers and I can see these games heading to Steam at some point. This E3 was great for both Sony and MS but still need to see more 1st party games.

you mean like tomb raider, dead rising, ryse, cuphead, d4, ori and the blind forest, fable, gigantic, project spark, titanfall, gears remaster, plants vs zombies, killer instinct, sea of thieves...

..maybe you missed the conference yesterday but xbox is becoming pc.  larry responded to a tweet asking for a pc port of master cheif collection saying "message recieved".  they alluded to gears 4 and forza going to pc too.

 

SF5 and shenmue 3 or ps4 console exlusives,.. don't bash ps4 for that when almost every xbox exclusive is on or going to be one pc now including most of their E3 2015 show.  don't pretend ps4s exclusive exclusives aren't exclusive because to you they "aren't enough".

Sea of thieves is going to PC?



Mr_No on 17 June 2015
Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
You know I usually prefer Sony's conferences, but usually I can understand why some people don't like them such as Wonderbook or Powers segments. But honestly, HOW can ANYONE not say they drowned us in awesomeness? We just got 3 games announced we never thought would happen for YEARS and 2 of them won't be coming to rival platforms and possibly the third as well (FF7 may just be coming to PS4 first then PC).

Then just throw in that epic Uncharted demo (yeah yeah it froze but so did AC4 when they demoed it and it never even stuttered when I got my PS4 copy), Horizon which looked great, little nuggets of indie, Dream which looks like the most creative thing pretty much ever, and Firewatch.

Then you think of all the stuff they didn't even have time to show (not just about the conference) like Ratchet and Clank, Until Dawn, Tearaway, and Persona? Come on guys stop deceiving yourselves. I'm not even personally into many of those games but from an overall range of games and business standpoint, Sony killed it.

Hell they even scored COD this year which will do great for their business this holiday swinging it from Xbox (I know it has sold more on PS4 but now it will tilt hard to show the difference in install base and possibly let them win the holiday in the US)

I agree. It's surprising the amount of downplaying on their conference, not only here, but everywhere else on the internet. They say that Sony showed no exclusives, you need to show them the list. Then they change to "no games for 2015". I know there are varied opinions, but why do people need to downplay Sony's conference if they showed games that fans requested so much. There will be games for 2015, even if they are multiplatforms. 



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Azzanation on 17 June 2015
kitler53 said:
Azzanation said:
I think the problem is the best PS4 games are actually timed or multiplats. Games like No Mans Sky, FF7, SF5 and Shenmue 3 are games that were really the shows highlights yet aren't exclusive compared to there competition which had there best games exclusives. UC4, Dreams and Horizon are great exclusives but arent enough, as for The Last Guardian, I don't see it being any good and games like Rigs, Star Ocean 5, Persona 5, Nier 2 and Final Fantasy Worlds aren't really system sellers and I can see these games heading to Steam at some point. This E3 was great for both Sony and MS but still need to see more 1st party games.

you mean like tomb raider, dead rising, ryse, cuphead, d4, ori and the blind forest, fable, gigantic, project spark, titanfall, gears remaster, plants vs zombies, killer instinct, sea of thieves...

..maybe you missed the conference yesterday but xbox is becoming pc.  larry responded to a tweet asking for a pc port of master cheif collection saying "message recieved".  they alluded to gears 4 and forza going to pc too.

 

SF5 and shenmue 3 or ps4 console exlusives,.. don't bash ps4 for that when almost every xbox exclusive is on or going to be one pc now including most of their E3 2015 show.  don't pretend ps4s exclusive exclusives aren't exclusive because to you they "aren't enough".


Not sure what E3 you watched. Dead Rising, Ryse, D4, Ori, Project Spark, Titanfall, PvZ etc was last E3. This E3 MS's best games were again there Exclsuive lineup which only 1 being a timed (Tomb Raider) included in there best. Halo 5, Gears 4, Forza 6, ReCore, Rare's Replays are Xboxes best showings. Sonys best was clearly FF7 (Timed) etc. Sorry to say, Sony relied on 3rd party timed and multiplats to win there show. MS's show was at its best with its own games.



bananaking21 on 17 June 2015
Mr_No said:
Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
You know I usually prefer Sony's conferences, but usually I can understand why some people don't like them such as Wonderbook or Powers segments. But honestly, HOW can ANYONE not say they drowned us in awesomeness? We just got 3 games announced we never thought would happen for YEARS and 2 of them won't be coming to rival platforms and possibly the third as well (FF7 may just be coming to PS4 first then PC).

Then just throw in that epic Uncharted demo (yeah yeah it froze but so did AC4 when they demoed it and it never even stuttered when I got my PS4 copy), Horizon which looked great, little nuggets of indie, Dream which looks like the most creative thing pretty much ever, and Firewatch.

Then you think of all the stuff they didn't even have time to show (not just about the conference) like Ratchet and Clank, Until Dawn, Tearaway, and Persona? Come on guys stop deceiving yourselves. I'm not even personally into many of those games but from an overall range of games and business standpoint, Sony killed it.

Hell they even scored COD this year which will do great for their business this holiday swinging it from Xbox (I know it has sold more on PS4 but now it will tilt hard to show the difference in install base and possibly let them win the holiday in the US)

I agree. It's surprising the amount of downplaying on their conference, not only here, but everywhere else on the internet. They say that Sony showed no exclusives, you need to show them the list. Then they change to "no games for 2015". I know there are varied opinions, but why do people need to downplay Sony's conference if they showed games that fans requested so much. There will be games for 2015, even if they are multiplatforms. 

they got a lot of exclusives for 2015 too. but hey, just becuase their western AAA game exclusive got delayed then it means "no gamez" for 2015. Rime, Persona 5, Everybody's gone to the rapture, Uncharted Collection, Tearaway Unfolded, No Man's Sky and Until Dawn are all releasing this year. but hey, gotta troll somehow, right? 



bananaking21 on 17 June 2015
Azzanation said:


Not sure what E3 you watched. Dead Rising, Ryse, D4, Ori, Project Spark, Titanfall, PvZ etc was last E3. This E3 MS's best games were again there Exclsuive lineup which only 1 being a timed (Tomb Raider) included in there best. Halo 5, Gears 4, Forza 6, ReCore, Rare's Replays are Xboxes best showings. Sonys best was clearly FF7 (Timed) etc. Sorry to say, Sony relied on 3rd party timed and multiplats to win there show. MS's show was at its best with its own games.


So Uncharted 4, Dreams, Horizon, The Last Guardian, Uncharted Collection, Until Dawn, Ratchet and Clank, and Tearaway are nothing... right? 



kitler53 on 17 June 2015
DerNebel said:
kitler53 said:
Azzanation said:
I think the problem is the best PS4 games are actually timed or multiplats. Games like No Mans Sky, FF7, SF5 and Shenmue 3 are games that were really the shows highlights yet aren't exclusive compared to there competition which had there best games exclusives. UC4, Dreams and Horizon are great exclusives but arent enough, as for The Last Guardian, I don't see it being any good and games like Rigs, Star Ocean 5, Persona 5, Nier 2 and Final Fantasy Worlds aren't really system sellers and I can see these games heading to Steam at some point. This E3 was great for both Sony and MS but still need to see more 1st party games.

you mean like tomb raider, dead rising, ryse, cuphead, d4, ori and the blind forest, fable, gigantic, project spark, titanfall, gears remaster, plants vs zombies, killer instinct, sea of thieves...

..maybe you missed the conference yesterday but xbox is becoming pc.  larry responded to a tweet asking for a pc port of master cheif collection saying "message recieved".  they alluded to gears 4 and forza going to pc too.

 

SF5 and shenmue 3 or ps4 console exlusives,.. don't bash ps4 for that when almost every xbox exclusive is on or going to be one pc now including most of their E3 2015 show.  don't pretend ps4s exclusive exclusives aren't exclusive because to you they "aren't enough".

Sea of thieves is going to PC?

http://www.pcgamer.com/rares-next-game-is-sea-of-thieves-coming-to-windows-10/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=133&v=1z48qvGsA_0

http://www.seaofthieves.com/



kitler53 on 17 June 2015
Azzanation said:
kitler53 said:
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you mean like tomb raider, dead rising, ryse, cuphead, d4, ori and the blind forest, fable, gigantic, project spark, titanfall, gears remaster, plants vs zombies, killer instinct, sea of thieves...

..maybe you missed the conference yesterday but xbox is becoming pc.  larry responded to a tweet asking for a pc port of master cheif collection saying "message recieved".  they alluded to gears 4 and forza going to pc too.

 

SF5 and shenmue 3 or ps4 console exlusives,.. don't bash ps4 for that when almost every xbox exclusive is on or going to be one pc now including most of their E3 2015 show.  don't pretend ps4s exclusive exclusives aren't exclusive because to you they "aren't enough".


Not sure what E3 you watched. Dead Rising, Ryse, D4, Ori, Project Spark, Titanfall, PvZ etc was last E3. This E3 MS's best games were again there Exclsuive lineup which only 1 being a timed (Tomb Raider) included in there best. Halo 5, Gears 4, Forza 6, ReCore, Rare's Replays are Xboxes best showings. Sonys best was clearly FF7 (Timed) etc. Sorry to say, Sony relied on 3rd party timed and multiplats to win there show. MS's show was at its best with its own games.


A) because they are xbox's only showings.

B) dead rising, ryse, d4, pvz, tomb raiders,... all games announced as "exclusvises" that weren't exclusive.   but hey, maybe this year is the year that exclusive actually means exculsive.  but seeing has win 10 seemed to be the theme of the show,.. seeing how killer instinct and gears remaster joined the list of "exclusives" coming to pc.  seeing as gears 4 and master chief collection was hinted at as coming to pc.   ...i kind of doubt it.    your list will be whittle down to halo 5 by this time next year just like last years list was whittled down and the year before that and the year before that and the year before that....