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ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Yes like other said its no loss for microsoft, they dont get the most important fighting game franchise on their console, its no big deal.

Fighting games aren't that popular. Moreover, according to total sales, Teken is the most popular fighting franchise and Mortal Kombat has also sold much more than SF. Smash Bros. isn't that far behind SF either. 



    

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MoHasanie said:

Fighting games aren't that popular. Moreover, according to total sales, Teken is the most popular fighting franchise and Mortal Kombat has also sold much more than SF. Smash Bros. isn't that far behind SF either.

SFIV alone sold over 8 million... it is popular.

I think even Tekken 3 couldn't reach that sales.



AbbathTheGrim said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


I would like an explaination as well, but I had your reservations months ago. The news which was just released ended all the speculation for me pertaining to other iterations of five being made to widen the base. I expect some news at E3. I heard Sony was a publisher of the game and Its probably because Capcom has been low on cash.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-will-never-get-a-version-of-street-fighter-5-/1100-6427987/

I do understand. But I remember similar claims being said by the people behind Mass Effect and the PS3 ports and in the end we got them. Makes me wonder if Capcom is in a similar situation with PS4 and Street Fighter.

Yeah, Capcom is like: who wants our IPs? Pay for the development and stuff and you got them. This approach may make sense financially, let's see how Capcom fairs in the end.

Sony would never have gained Mass Effect had EA not purchased Bioware like Microsoft should've in the first place. Thats is the only reason why Sony got it. EA does not really like exclusivity because it hinders them from getting the most out of their profits.



ethomaz said:

MoHasanie said:

Fighting games aren't that popular. Moreover, according to total sales, Teken is the most popular fighting franchise and Mortal Kombat has also sold much more than SF. Smash Bros. isn't that far behind SF either.

SFIV alone sold over 8 million... it is popular.

I think even Tekken 3 couldn't reach that sales.


Exactly. Tekken 4 soured fighting game fans love for the series and the continued growth eventually faded out never to return. Thankfully we are getting one last Tekken.



S.T.A.G.E. said:

Sony would never have gained Mass Effect had EA not purchased Bioware like Microsoft should've in the first place. Thats is the only reason why Sony got it. EA does not really like exclusivity because it hinders them from getting the most out of their profits.

I wouldn't be so sure of that. If Micro would have had Mass Effect so under their grasp Sony would have never had a piece of ME pie.

Take Gears of War for example, Micro really wanted the franchise for themselves so they bought the rights out of Epic Games. There is no "is Gears coming to PS3" arguments anymore thanks to that certainty.

If they don't own the IP anything can happen unless a contract is involved. Capcom is the owner of SF. What makes the discussion on what can happen with SF or not is the contract and what it stipulates and since we don't know what it says or not we can't help but wonder:

1) Does the contract say that Street Fighter V can't appear in Xbone?

OR

2) Does it say that it can't appear in other platforms during X amount of years.

No one knows for certain, not even you S.T.A.G.E., and so I say "wait and see" cuz they ain't showing that filthy contract.



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

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BMaker11 said:

LudicrousSpeed said:

Thats a lot of text trying to analyze a very simple comment. Again, one person says MS started the whole 3rd party exclusive thing, i simply corrected him. What MS is doing with Tomb Raider 2015 or what Sony is doing with SFV in terms of funding are irrelevant to both the comment i quoted and my response to it.

Last post I will make on this subject.

You used Tomb Raider as an example of moneyhatted 3rd party exclusivity. Tomb Raider 2 on the Saturn got the axe due to technical limitations, not Sony moneyhatting.

If you can think of another example for your "correction", I'd like to know, and I'd happily admit that my assessment right now was incorrect, but I can't think of any off the top of my head. The mantra of "Sony didn't have to buy exclusivity" was a thing for a reason (referring to Sony having to buy 3rd party exclusivity for PS3 when the didn't have to for the prior systems). Those reasons being better hardware (PS1) or utter market dominance (PS1 and PS2) making it the go to console.

I know you're trying to brush the false equivalency (co-developing vs. throwing money to keep it off the competition) under the rug of "who started 3rd party exclusivity" by simply saying "I was just correcting a comment", but then, your "correction" was with a false example. So the point of the original comment, which is the only thing you wanted to address, still stands.


Breh...

http://www.tombnews.com/news/1997/09/1801/

Hope that helps.



I am pretty sure one of the 20 version of sf 5



 

LudicrousSpeed said:

Breh...

http://www.tombnews.com/news/1997/09/1801/

Hope that helps.

So, given that Adrian Smith of Core Design says that technical limitations prevented a Saturn version of TR, you link to an article in which another employee (the COO, no less) says that it went exclusive partly because the PS1 had better hardware? 

"Given the worldwide domination of the PlayStation system, it's a natural for Eidos to partner with Sony Computer Entertainment America and Sony Computer Entertainment Europe" and "We want our best-selling franchise to reach the greatest number of consumers and the PlayStation and its powerful CD-ROM software format satisfies this demand. The fact that the PlayStation will be the only game console on which you can enjoy the Tomb Raider franchise is a great statement for the platform."  

Sounds a lot like "we want this franchise to reach the widest audience and it's not possible to do that on other platforms, both in terms of hardware and marketshare". Doesn't sound at all like Sony tossed them a bunch of money. Like I said in a prior post: it's the same reason FF7 went PS1 exclusive. Or, for example, why Arkham Knight isn't on WiiU.

Maybe I'm wrong in how I'm analyzing that article, but let's just say the situation is dubious, at best, for this particular game (they didn't just say "Sony struck up a deal" and left it at that i.e. just giving money. A deal arose because of other factors, it seems like). So, again I ask, do you have another example? If buying up 3rd parties was as rampant as some say, surely you could find something other than Tomb Raider. If not, it's not looking good for the original point you addressed about the "who started it" for buying 3rd party exclusivity. And like I said, I'll happily admit being incorrect on this, but I really can't think of any scenarios from gens prior to gen 7 where 3rd party games were exclusive simply because one company shelled out dough to prevent the compeitition from having it, instead of being exclusive for hardware reasons, marketshare reasons, or dispute reasons (like EA and Dreamcast).

 



ethomaz said:
ofrm1 said:
Not a loss imo.

Yeap... just the biggest fighting game in the world.

it is like Halo, GT or GTA of fighting games lol

I meant it's not a loss for me. Apparen't you aren't able to grasp the meaning of "in my opinion."

Also, I wouldn't really be comparing it to GT if your goal is to argue for its relevancy, lol.

I can't stand SF IV, and I'm sure I won't be able to stand SF V. Nevertheless, like some masochist, I'm sure I'll pick up one of the 19 revisions that CapCom will inevitably release on PC at some point in the game's 7 year lifespan between IV and VI.



ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Yes like other said its no loss for microsoft, they dont get the most important fighting game franchise on their console, its no big deal.

Why are we talking about Smash bros?

I'm joking lol