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Witcher 3, Infamous SS and Killzone SF and Bloodborne are true next gen expierences, you could count Driveclub in the rain since it is jawdropping and it turned out to be a quite an awesome game (even though it took some time). DC was Sony's big game last year along with LBP 3 even though it is kind a lazy Sony probably had to make those remasters because R&C and Uncharted where not going to make it. MS has quite an awesome line-up with a new Halo, Forza and Tomb Raider and a good 2016 ahead just like Sony, whereas besides Zelda I wouldn't know with what big titles Nintendo is coming up with.

So they're true next gen experiences, because they're prettier than its previous versions on last gen hardware? Ok, then. What a amazing gen, Ps4 and X1 are the only ones which truly deserve greats sales!

Edit: By the way, since when R&C is a sony big title? So we can include Star Fox and Xenoblade X on the list of big games coming to wii u

I don't have a vita, but I can say that I did not buy it because of the expensive memory cards, lack of big games compared to the 3ds, and the big price. So it does deserve to do worse than the 3ds, but maybe better than where it is since it actually has some pretty good hardware.

I do however own the wii u and I can say it does deserve these sales. Wonderful 101, rayman legends, and pikmin 3 were supposed to be launch titles. I was under the impression that xeno X was a 2014 title, zelda a 2015 title, and FE x SMT a 2015 title. If there is a game that does not interest me, like splatoon, I suddenly have to wait months before the next title that MAY interest me. Nintendo marketed the wii u as having good third party support at first, and that quickly went downhill. And the worst part, we are literally missing genres of gaming, no not just some games, GENRES. No good traditional fighting games (street fighter, mortal kombat x), or traditional racers (project cars, forza, drive club, GT, the crew), no traditional shooters (cod, titanfall, destiny, halo), survival/horror games (fallout, dead rising, the last of us), no stealth games (deus ex: mankind divided, MGS V),... so on and so forth. So all in all, yes the wii u does deserve these sales

so, how many it would deverse if it had ps360 third parties?

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lolwut? You must have missed the insane number of threads created saying how awesome the tablet was and how innovative Ninty was once again. The predictions were extremely high (people expected it to sell 100+m easily). Not only that but almost every thread made with the topic "which console are you buying", WiiU was winning by a mile. PS4/x1 were not even close. Tons of Sony fans were saying that were getting a wiiu as a secondary console. So, there were definitely people excited for it, even if your memory doesn't help you much. The negativity about the controller only started after sales were dropping catching almost everyone by surprise.

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Wii had an epic launch with wiisports and the controllers, not with Zelda. A Zelda game would not have anywhere near the same impact as the new way of playing video games had. The wiiu had the same strategy. The only problem was that gamers didn't care for it.

Zelda defenitly had a good influence on the sales for the so called core gamers, especially aiming and sword play, just like Killzone was good for the launch of the PS4 it showed where the system was capable off. Gears did the same thing for the X360, even Ryse did, but launching your game with a party game which had been put through our troaths for 3 years on Wii didn't help much. The only reason everyone was buying a Wii U was because the specs of the Wii U where not revealed after the competition was known few cared about it. Everyone was expecting a great launch and a good use of the tablet when it turns out that wasn't the case nobody gived a damn.

That's the nice thing of being the first console of the next gen everyone praises you until the competition comes, which frankly threw the WiiU in a very deep pit and the Zelda tech demo got people hyped up to. Because Zelda in HD who wouldn't want that when it was known Zelda wasn't coming anytime soon and the launch titles wheren't all that special. Since the games didn't look that much better than the games on PS360, and the exclusives wheren't special either intrest quickly died. Followed by a long draught of software to have another 2d platform game didn't help either. The WII was more than only it's controller sure it helped to become very succesful the first year, but great software made sure it got to that 100 million mark.

Yup, I'm def gonna buy a few Wii-U's and keep them boxed. One as a back up for me, and the others for me to make bank on. I'm gonna do the same with rare games like Wonderful 101 etc.

Both Wii U and Vita are good consoles/handhelds in their own right,but both just have wasted potential, thats all there is to it

Amazing how you know you're lying but keep spouting this bullshit.

also, the controller is so wird that has all buttons you expect from one in the same places. and how exactly having a 2d platformer for launch afects someone negatively?