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KyleeStrutt on 04 June 2015
Mystro-Sama said:
Just wait til Disgaea and Persona come out. lol

Disgaea already came out and nobody cared.



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Skullwaker on 04 June 2015
Aerys said:
Only in droughts period, but now, during a normal period, the baseline of PS4 is more around 20k and it can easily reach more than 60k with big games, so we have MGS V coming and a lot of big western games that will impact sales in Japan too, there are also the next Tales and Zestiria, Star Ocean 5, Dissidia FF, DQ Heroes 2 and a lot of other japanese games to be announced ( like the next Level 5 game). The gap will close even faster since Wii U has no big games this year, they can only make bundles and price cut

 

The gap was more than 1,5M when PS4 released in Japan, and now it's half of that in just one year, whereas Wii U had SSB and Mario Kart, so what do you think it will be in one year  without big games (as system seller) in 2015 ?

Uh...Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem? Star Fox? Yoshi? Mario Maker? Devil's Third? And that's not counting potential announcements at E3 like Animal Crossing, Paper Mario, Pokken Fighters or a new 3D Mario...



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Mystro-Sama on 04 June 2015
KyleeStrutt said:
Mystro-Sama said:
Just wait til Disgaea and Persona come out. lol

Disgaea already came out and nobody cared.


Really?... :/

 

Ok then, Persona it is. xD



Ruler on 04 June 2015
KyleeStrutt said:
daredevil.shark said:

Very soon PS4 will take Japanese home console market.

Not precisely a huge accomplishement given the current state of the industry.

All things considered the PS4 is performing better than the Dreamcast, WiiU and other console flops given its price point, library and launch, remember that PS4 released at the end of February while all the other during the holidays.


Yet Japan is still close at outselling the UK and becoming second biggest 8 Gen console market again. Despite that Japan got its PS4 last



Aerys on 04 June 2015
Skullwaker said:
Aerys said:
Only in droughts period, but now, during a normal period, the baseline of PS4 is more around 20k and it can easily reach more than 60k with big games, so we have MGS V coming and a lot of big western games that will impact sales in Japan too, there are also the next Tales and Zestiria, Star Ocean 5, Dissidia FF, DQ Heroes 2 and a lot of other japanese games to be announced ( like the next Level 5 game). The gap will close even faster since Wii U has no big games this year, they can only make bundles and price cut

 

The gap was more than 1,5M when PS4 released in Japan, and now it's half of that in just one year, whereas Wii U had SSB and Mario Kart, so what do you think it will be in one year  without big games (as system seller) in 2015 ?

Uh...Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem? Star Fox? Yoshi? Mario Maker? Devil's Third? And that's not counting potential announcements at E3 like Animal Crossing, Paper Mario, Pokken Fighters or a new 3D Mario...


None of them are bigger system seller than X



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

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Aerys on 04 June 2015
Ryng_Tolu said:
Aerys said:

it can easily reach more than 60k

WTF, not even with Dragon Quest and BloodBorne PS4 hit 50k, how you can say it will EASY sell 60k with a game released!?

And the PS4 basis is not 20,000... or better, yes, is the PS4 basis for the first Q1 of the year, but after that, the normal week is always 10,000 or in the best case 15,000, that's is always happen with the Vita for example.

Even Vita was at +20,000 costant for first 3 month of year, but after that is dropped at 10,000 / 12,000 ... like in 2014... for PS4 is the same.

Around 20,000 for Jan to March, after that around 10,000 / 12,000 ; a boost with the games (will depend by the game) and of course the holidays boost... but that's what happen in all market, not only in Japan.

The same in the US for all console, the first 3 month are strong (maybe just January is low, but February and March are massive, exepecially February), and by april is starting the dropped until a game boost or holidays... 


It's not the same for every console in Japan. And PS4, contraty to Vita, has a lot of exclusive games coming this generation ( any PS4/One game is like an exclusive)

 

And if you count DQ bundle without the game + DQ release, it did much more than 60k, so yes it can easily do taht, and it was only a multiplatform game

 



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

estebxx on 04 June 2015
KyleeStrutt said:

Wish I had been able to make this quicker :(

LOL... and the PS3 just watching from the crowd XD

also it seems this topics always come charged with sodium... im just gonna wait till the actual big japanese games for the PS4 (MGS5, Kingdom Hearts 3, FFXV,) get released and see how much they can boost its sales



Skullwaker on 04 June 2015
Aerys said:
None of them are bigger system seller than X

How do you know that? Fire Emblem and Shin Megami Tensei are way more prominent in Japan than Xenoblade, especially with Fire Emblem's recent boom in popularity. Furthermore, a game like Splatoon is proving to be a similar system mover as X, and that's a game that very few people thought would even sell more than 60k FW over there.

Also, Animal Crossing would 100% be a bigger system seller than X. So would a SMG3, and any big Pokemon spinoff.



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Aerys on 04 June 2015
Skullwaker said:
Aerys said:
None of them are bigger system seller than X

How do you know that? Fire Emblem and Shin Megami Tensei are way more prominent in Japan than Xenoblade, especially with Fire Emblem's recent boom in popularity. Furthermore, a game like Splatoon is proving to be a similar system mover as X, and that's a game that very few people thought would even sell more than 60k FW over there.

Also, Animal Crossing would 100% be a bigger system seller than X. So would a SMG3, and any big Pokemon spinoff.


Splatoon had a huge marketing and because of it's settings, it's made to sell a lot to childrens ( and even with that huge marketing, Wii U didnt even reach 20k), the only game that could sell as much as X in your list is SMTxFe , if it's released this year



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Ryng on 04 June 2015
Aerys said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

WTF, not even with Dragon Quest and BloodBorne PS4 hit 50k, how you can say it will EASY sell 60k with a game released!?

And the PS4 basis is not 20,000... or better, yes, is the PS4 basis for the first Q1 of the year, but after that, the normal week is always 10,000 or in the best case 15,000, that's is always happen with the Vita for example.

Even Vita was at +20,000 costant for first 3 month of year, but after that is dropped at 10,000 / 12,000 ... like in 2014... for PS4 is the same.

Around 20,000 for Jan to March, after that around 10,000 / 12,000 ; a boost with the games (will depend by the game) and of course the holidays boost... but that's what happen in all market, not only in Japan.

The same in the US for all console, the first 3 month are strong (maybe just January is low, but February and March are massive, exepecially February), and by april is starting the dropped until a game boost or holidays... 


It's not the same for every console in Japan. And PS4, contraty to Vita, has a lot of exclusive games coming this generation ( any PS4/One game is like an exclusive)

 

And if you count DQ bundle without the game + DQ release, it did much more than 60k, so yes it can easily do taht, and it was only a multiplatform game

 

In a December week? ...so...?

WU one time sold 110,000 in a December week with nothing... BECAUSE IS DECEMBER.

Not only, around 60,000 in a December week with a new bundle is pretty poor.

"And PS4, contraty to Vita" is not true and even if is doesn't matter, the basis will still be at 10,000 / 12,000 during May or so... Damn, not even 3DS at this point of year is at 20,000!

And i said, not only with Japan market, but GLOBALLY this is the situation. PS4 was easy +300,000 in February and March in the US, but in April PS4 is under 200,000...