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I wish I didn't read it 20 10.15%
 
WTF! 26 13.20%
 
I miss Stella!! 41 20.81%
 
Meh.. Don't Care. 110 55.84%
 
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Harkins1721 said:
Aeolus451 said:
My only complaint is the all male group that have a japanese goth look to 'em. I would like to be able to change party members for some female ones.

This game isnt about that so you may want to find another game. 


Regardless I want to let my opinion be known on this. This is the only rpg I ever heard that had a party or group that was all male. I may or may not get the game. I'll just wait until I find out a lot more about it or wait til after it's released. 



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shikamaru317 said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
deskpro2k3 said:
Stella was the perfect waifu materiel. :(

Why is it better than luna?

2 long hair blond chicks with diferent eye colors. They are so similar...

It's more about personality and abilties than appearance, they're almost identical in appearance. The difference is that Stella looked like she'd be a strong character, she shared Noctis' crystal powers and the ability to see Etro's light, she had her own goals and ambitions that would at times make her both an ally and an enemy of Noctis. She seemed like she was going to be a really complex, well-written character, and a good potential romance interest for Noctis. 

By comparison all we've seen Luna do so far is sit there looking pretty waiting for Noctis to show up for a dinner. I got this strong damsel in distress vibe from her, that's a feeling I just can't shake. Maybe I'm wrong and she'll be just as strong of a character as Stella, but first impressions are important, and Tabata picked a really bad way to introduce Luna for the first time.


You do realize that what a character is, is COMPLETELY different than HOW a character is, right?  Stella could have easily been another Lightning for all we know.

-A strong female soldier who has her own ambitions.  Sounds too similar already.

From the looks of SE's ability to write, it's almost like they're completely limited to what a character is anyways.  They don't seem to understand what good character development is.  Or when they do attempt it, like with Hope and Lightning for instance, it's too shallow and lacks subtlety.

Nomura sure as hell doesn't understand character development.  He's always been about friendship in his games, and only friendship.  He never puts any other real world ordeals in his games to push the game's story.  For the most part he's always about "teh light and teh darkness" in everyone's heart.  

It would have been more interesting if he pushed that as being on a moral gray line, but he didn't know what the fuck he had in his possession, or what he really could have done to make a good story in KH games.  Instead it was either all evil or all good.



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Harkins1721 said:
Xxain said:

Strayed away from Nomura's vision? You mean the vision that had the game in development hell? The one that kept Noctis from having official outfit for years? Nomura had his shot at his First FF as director, and he bombed. Just like FF14, somebody has to come in a clean up the mess.... THEIR way, not old directors way.

Seriously, the age of Wada was mismanaged


Because that was clearly Nomura's fault right?

People keep saying this.

Nomura was removed from FF15. Nomura more than likely was removed due to his extensive testing/Alpha phase. When the new CEO took over after Wada, he made it very clear that SE development cycles could longer go the way they were. What SE games could he be rephrasing? FF14/15. Its pretty safe to assume that Nomura was replaced with somebody they felt was gonna get the game moving, especially since KHIII was announced spreading Nomura even thinner. 

They would NOT remove one of their key workers if it was their (as in higher up) fault the game wasn't progressing 



Wildcard36qs said:
I just don't understand...



Like really? The amount of entitlement here is hilarious.


How you pin them as the same person is hilarious to me, here, allow me to help you understand. They may look similar, but they're not the same. Lets go even futher, in real life we have twins, but that does not make twins the same people.

Here let me show you some facts, perhaps you missed it in the OP.

Tabata: “The first is the presence of the character Stella. Stella was presented as the heroine to play opposite Noctis in Versus XIII. We wanted to keep her as a heroine in FFXV’s story, and pursued ways to tie her in to FFXV’s design as well, but we found it increasingly difficult to make sense of Stella’s character and role within FFXV. So then we thought, do we want to recreate Stella with a different role and image, or do we want to start over with a new hreoine? And after a lot of consideration, we decided not to include Stella in FFXV. Instead, we have a new heroine named Luna, who has a different role within the story. So we will be talking more about her in the future.”

 

The amount of people missing the point of the OP is too damn high. It's not just about Stella (I miss you Stella), the whole dark fantasy based on reality of the game is pretty much gone, amoung other cool things.



I understand they ditched Stella and basically made her into Luna (at least physically). But you guys have what, a few minutes of trailers and some promotional material to go on? How deep of a character development did you get from that? Someone saying they could tell her personality and how different she was from Luna based upon a few seconds in a cutscene? For real? It's just quite outrageous to me lol



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Wildcard36qs said:
I understand they ditched Stella and basically made her into Luna (at least physically). But you guys have what, a few minutes of trailers and some promotional material to go on? How deep of a character development did you get from that? Someone saying they could tell her personality and how different she was from Luna based upon a few seconds in a cutscene? For real? It's just quite outrageous to me lol

THIS!!!!

Thanks to Internet we can complain about games that never exist.



Wildcard36qs said:
I understand they ditched Stella and basically made her into Luna (at least physically). But you guys have what, a few minutes of trailers and some promotional material to go on? How deep of a character development did you get from that? Someone saying they could tell her personality and how different she was from Luna based upon a few seconds in a cutscene? For real? It's just quite outrageous to me lol


Followers have been keeping an eye on the original concept of this game since 2006. Like I said earlier, this is not just about Stella.. Thank you very much.



I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic or you are genuinely this mad. This game is not even close to release (even with the demo, we still know very little) so why get so worked up over these changes? How about we let the game release before we get so up in arms.



"Trick shot? The trick is NOT to get shot." - Lucian

KingdomHeartsFan said:
DivinePaladin said:

You do realize that Nomura was removed as director as part of the changes to SE's development staff, right? As in, he was part of the problem. In fact, his removal and subsequent full time shift to KHIII is the only notable change at such a high level, meaning, again, he was part of the problem. Nomura has been well known in the past generation (and even two if you wanna look at the roots of this issue) for being worse than Aonuma with pacing his teams. 

 

Which all brings me back to: One game, the details of which you barely knew, was run by Nomura alone and would likely have never come out without Square's "terrible management" outright forcing him to get moving. The other, run superficially by Nomura, will actually release.

I'm sorry there's just too much wrong with your comment to even continue this.  Your gonna have to learn up on the development of the game if you want me to take you seriously.

I don't need to be taken seriously by somebody with a VERY obvious bias based on your username. Your baseless speculation about this game's history is no different from mine except that in yours Nomura can't do wrong. 



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Wildcard36qs said:
I understand they ditched Stella and basically made her into Luna (at least physically). But you guys have what, a few minutes of trailers and some promotional material to go on? How deep of a character development did you get from that? Someone saying they could tell her personality and how different she was from Luna based upon a few seconds in a cutscene? For real? It's just quite outrageous to me lol


The director himself has said XV is effectively no longer Versus, the original concept is gone that's the whole point, Stella was just the final confirmation and nail in the coffin. Dark fantasy based on reality has become some kind of road trip while people attempt to assassinate your dad the one character who appears to have survived the culling of the original concept intact.