It's so weird to think Gran Turismo used to be my favorite racing franchise, and nowadays Polyphony takes 4 years to make a game with under 150 cars, and 19 locations, while Turn 10-on 2 year dev cycles-is on the third FM of this gen, and about to drop a game with 700 cars and 30 locations....that's not even getting into all the other things Forza objectively does better at this point.

Thank god Turn 10 are as good as they are, cus if I had to wait on PD to scratch my itch I'd be going mad.

I wish they never used Forza in the Horizon series. Completely understandable but still. Ppl aren't counting that as a separate 1st party title saying yearly Forza because they don't know what they're talking about or have not played both. Anyone who's played both know they're different.

A extra year wouldn't hurt it i wouldn't think. Always a lot to do in their games plus there's online 

Xbox Kart

And Marcus Fenix on a Reaver!

We have FM for sim racing and FH for arcade racer. If the new franchise isn't a Kart racer than i can't imagine what it could be.

or Xbox Smash!

New franchise might be car combat a la Twisted Metal. That game was my childhood... That and Coolboarders, back when Sony was cool and not just very weird...

I worry about Rare when SoT become successful more than whwn it fails! If the game become success, it will occupy a huge amount of resources to maintain,  update and generate new content. And that's provably going to take years, 4-5. Then it's time for the sequel!

That is the problem with MMO's in my opinion. The developer will be a slave for the franchise if they succeed.

I think it is an easy, smart way to cut down the cost for each title. I think when they sign a licence for a Porche cars for examble, the contract will be some thing like this: " To use Porche cars on Forza games for 10 years". That goes for the music as well. 

Discontinuing the first horizon might contradict that, but it is the only old Forza they still sell, so I don't know.

They could still do that with established Microsoft characters. It is more of a unique idea than copying Mario Kart.

I still think the best tird Forza titel would be a story driven game similar to "Cars", Pixar movie, with Mrio Kart game play and vased on real animated super cars. Instead of rockets and bombs to rackle/slowdown the others, they should use the takedown system from burnout franchise and "freinds" helping you blocking the road like what we saw in NFS Hot Pursuit.