| purewisdon said: Lots of stupid hate towards nintendo here. The only thing that may be irreparably damaged is third party trust after so much lack of professionalism. |
Honestly I wish MS and Sony wouldn't ass-kiss EA/Ubi/Acti as much as they do.
Nope.
The WiiU comes down to a marketing failure. Customers don't know what a WiiU is.
If they fix that next time around, Nintendo will return.
Scoobes said:
You mean Nintendo's lack of professionalism, right? Edit: Alt account, oh well... nice try, lol. |
Is it professional to delay a launch title exclusive platformer for a WHOLE YEAR, or promise at E3 full support for a console, and then shiv that fucking console in the spinal column with Mass Effect 3 (giving a bundle of all 3 titles to the other competitor consoles)?
Is it professional to willingly gut your own consoles chances at success, at the beck and whim of Western 3rd Parties, who ALMOST CERTAINLY convinced Microsoft to implement anti-consumer measures in their product?
If you think Nintendo's treatment of 3rd Parties, and further more their current trajectory of selling plastic toys and theme park rides, was the worst they could've done, YOU ARE COMPLETELY BLIND.
“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.
I don't think so, if anything Wii U will be look back at as that one time when Nintendo wasn't doing great, yet they never left the console to die, or stop supporting it with games.
megaman79 said:
2. Is it professional to willingly gut your own consoles chances at success, at the beck and whim of Western 3rd Parties, who ALMOST CERTAINLY convinced Microsoft to implement anti-consumer measures in their product? 3. If you think Nintendo's treatment of 3rd Parties, and further more their current trajectory of selling plastic toys and theme park rides, was the worst they could've done, YOU ARE COMPLETELY BLIND.
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1. It's EA, so I would attribute that down to complete and utter incompetence. They also released a pretty good version NFS: Most Wanted which didn't sell particularly well. Also, just because I think Nintendo haven't been particularly professional over the years with third parties, doesn't stop third parties also behaving poorly. Nintendo and EA in particular seem to have had a significant fallout during the year before the WiiU release. The details of that fallout aren't exactly public knowledge, but I'm not going to put fault just on one party.
2. This is pure guesswork and highly unlikely. MS are a PC company and probably just tried to copy the lucrative system from Steam and other PC services. The fact that Sony didn't put this in their console yet still had lots of support from third parties also suggests that this assessment is completely wrong.
3. When did I say this? All I've said (well, inferred from the post I quoted) is that Nintendo haven't been particularly professional in their relationships with third parties (particularly outside of Japan). Third parties general lack of support and reluctance to release anything on Nintendo consoles suggests this may well be the case.
| Scoobes said: 1. It's EA, so I would attribute that down to complete and utter incompetence. They also released a pretty good version NFS: Most Wanted which didn't sell particularly well. Also, just because I think Nintendo haven't been particularly professional over the years with third parties, doesn't stop third parties also behaving poorly. Nintendo and EA in particular seem to have had a significant fallout during the year before the WiiU release. The details of that fallout aren't exactly public knowledge, but I'm not going to put fault just on one party. 2. This is pure guesswork and highly unlikely. MS are a PC company and probably just tried to copy the lucrative system from Steam and other PC services. The fact that Sony didn't put this in their console yet still had lots of support from third parties also suggests that this assessment is completely wrong. 3. When did I say this? All I've said (well, inferred from the post I quoted) is that Nintendo haven't been particularly professional in their relationships with third parties (particularly outside of Japan). Third parties general lack of support and reluctance to release anything on Nintendo consoles suggests this may well be the case. |
"Loaning or renting games won't be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners"
http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/6/4403930/xbox-one-used-games-license-transfers-no-fee
Not to mention the mountain of critisizm of the used games market from third-parties, locked DLC, and the amount of "support" EA continues to give Xbox. You are in denial. Pointing out glaringly obvious collusion does not need guess work.
“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.
| Kuksenkov said: I don't think so, if anything Wii U will be look back at as that one time when Nintendo wasn't doing great, yet they never left the console to die, or stop supporting it with games. |
Booya! Not only are they going to keep supporting it, but they are still going to back it with exclusives from themselves and deals made with third parties that are actually core games. E3 is going to be intense.
Yes. I should have skiped.
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| DaveTheMinion13 said: Is it bad that no matter what......I'll buy whatever console Nintendo releases? They made my favorite game ever (OOT), and they'll always have my support. I'm just hoping they stay within the console market....love my fix of Zelda and Donkey Kong. |
Your free to buy whatever you want but you shouldn't just blindly buy what a corporation gives you.
"Say what you want about Americans but we understand Capitalism.You buy yourself a product and you Get What You Pay For."
- Max Payne 3
megaman79 said:
"Loaning or renting games won't be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners" http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/6/4403930/xbox-one-used-games-license-transfers-no-fee Not to mention the mountain of critisizm of the used games market from third-parties, locked DLC, and the amount of "support" EA continues to give Xbox. You are in denial. Pointing out glaringly obvious collusion does not need guess work. |
So basically... guesswork.
Ah, the age old arguments of the conspiracy theorist.
Also, why did Sony manage to still get lots of support from third parties (EA included) then?
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