Not sure if it can be done by Kickstarter rules... but something like Bloodstained (in which they are cheating the system as the project is already funded but they were only trying to prove interest to the publisher) can be done, they could ask some value to prove the interest, if the game is founded or not will define if a Wii U port is done, asking for full development cost would be crazy.

And it doesn't seem that either is really interested in giving the first step nor that Nintendo intends to really push it.

I know you mean software, but it already has impacted their own product. Nintendo has only sold 9 - 10 million Wii Us (9.2 is the lower bound, we can only estimate the upper bound based on NPD, Famitsu/MC), compared to Sony's 22.3 million. While VGC tracking may be suspect, and MS is being deliberately silent on the matter, the Xbox One has also outsold the Wii U nearly every NPD.

Nintendo's inward-looking nature gave us the Wii and the Wii U. When they are able to work on their own terms, they flourish. They have to work on the industry's terms, they flounder. Nintendo got caught off guard by HD development and shaders 5+ years after HD development started. That shouldn't've happened, but it did, and here we are. Here's some food for thought: The year that the Wii U was released, programmable shaders turned 10 years old.

Because its still not worth it. It's not the interest in the game, it's that the resources that would be spent to make such a port could be better spent getting a better return on investment.

NobleTeam360 said: Honestly at this point I don't get why Nintendo fans even care about 3rd party support anymore. It's not going to happen so you might as well just buy a PS4 or Xbone if you want 3rd party games

Nintendo + PC combo is better.  I don't have to pay for online and  I can upgrade my PC at anytime.  Let me know the next time you upgrade the GPU or memory on the PS4 or xbox one.

Unfortunately their pushes haven't been very effective. at least they keep putting very good sw so for MP owners it is great for Nintendo only owners don't know if it would be enough.

sethnintendo said: NobleTeam360 said: Honestly at this point I don't get why Nintendo fans even care about 3rd party support anymore. It's not going to happen so you might as well just buy a PS4 or Xbone if you want 3rd party games Nintendo + PC combo is better.  I don't have to pay for online and  I can upgrade my PC at anytime.  Let me know the next time you upgrade the GPU or memory on the PS4 or xbox one.

That would defeat the entire purpose of consoles to begin with. If we could upgrade parts of a console, video game developers would not be able to optimize for a single architecture specification per platform that allows them to get more out of hardware than they otherwise would. Not only that, but making a console in such a way that it was upgradable would increase the cost of the console dramatically. No more CPUs/GPU/RAM soldered directly to a board, instead they'd have to be socketed. No only would these extra peices add to the cost of the unit, the hardware would have to be less compact as these pieces take up more space, the case itself would be more expensive to design, manufacture and assemble, as these parts would have to be accessable without voiding the warranty. They would also obviously weigh more and cost more to ship. There is no way something like the PS4 could release at $399 if it were made to be upgradable, and even if some manufacturer was dumb enough to do so, theres no way third parties would be willing to eat the added cost of developing for more than one spec per platform.

PC master race people appear to not have a clue why consoles are the way they are, and don't understand why they're not PCs in every way.

Are you really comparing the sales of a game on a console with 80 million to a few million after launch? 

Anyway. Numbers are good and fun, but they actually don't pain the whole picture either. I'm not arguing your point because it's correct. But there were other circumstances that certainly affected it. Part of it was that there was a fair launch lineup on the Wii U. At much as more is better, it can also be worse, especially when it's an older game and went up against a few new IP's that turned out to be fairly heavy hitters. If there is too much something will always be over looked especially if the same game can be purchased through another outet for less than a quarter of the cost. That's not the case for all the games of course, but it's undeniable that to go against anything with Mario in it makes it really rough. If parity wasn't an issue it likely would have been more successful. But all of it is what it is. Games on the system are doing fairly well now, so if there were a time to attempt to bring more third party support again, it would be now. 

He's calling third party software releases the charity because the third parties wouldn't make any money.

Sorry I didn't explain myself better. In the last 10 years, GPU technology has fundamentally changed from a configurable pipeline (fixed function) to a programmable pipeline (the 4 or 5 types of shaders modern APIs running on modern GPUs support). AFAIK, the Wii was the last console. Nintendo seems to have had no idea that this transition happened, and were caught with their pants down, despite the massive amount of money made from the Wii and DS. My point was that Nintendo has a very myopic worldview, and that has to change if they want success in the global gaming marketplace.