Firstly let's ditch the term "entitlement". Me or anyone else saying that I would have loved the opportunity to spend £50 on Project Cars is not entitlement. If you think it is then you don't understand what entitlement is, or you're just using that inflammatory word to be a jerk.

I'm not going to pretend that I would buy a massive amount of third-party games if they were coming to Wii U - currently I own precisely 0 retail third party games, and that situation is now likely to stay the same for some time until I get around to buying Rayman Legends or Zombi U.

However, would I have bought GTA V if it released on Wii U? Yes, and I think I'm far from the only one who would buy such a critically acclaimed and popular game. Rock Band 4 and Project Cars? Yes and yes, and again, I don't think I'd be the only one. Rock Band has sold respectably on Nintendo consoles in the past, and I think there would still be enough of a market there to make it worthwhile. Guitar Hero Live will on the other hand obviously struggle due to its extortionate price and gimmicky look, and this will be held up as an example of why you can't release third party games on Nintendo consoles.

The other thing is that third parties simply don't help themselves on Nintendo consoles. Mass Effect 3 released with Wii U on launch day. Well thanks a lot EA, I'd get it, but I've never played Mass Effect 1 and 2! How about releasing the whole trilogy? Instead, EA chalk Mass Effect 3's failure as a reason why we can't release on Nintendo consoles. The Rayman Legends issue has been talked over to death and was yet another way to screw over Nintendo fans - and yes, Nintendo fans don't forget that kind of thing. Watch Dogs is yet another ridiculous one, with a long delay ending in a bad port - and the mediocre response to the game already clocked by the Nintendo fans. When I went to my local game store on the one hand I could see Watch Dogs for 360 in the bargain bin for a fiver, and on the Wii U it was selling for £56. Yeah, thanks but no thanks. Project Cars looks like the latest and perhaps worst of betrayals. We were told how great the game was running on Wii U and how the Gamepad allowed for some creative ideas on their part. Now after all the promises, this is what we get. Of course we're annoyed, and being annoyed here is no more entitled than the people who were annoyed when Silent Hills was cancelled.

And then there's the constant sneering and snipes made at Nintendo fans by these third party companies. EA have a history of this, constantly mocking the consoles and the users. An Activision rep recently laughed at the idea of the latest CoD coming to Wii U - pretty disrespectful to the 300k customers who bought their games for Wii U. No one likes being made fun of - it's pretty much insult to injury in these situations.

Bleh, vent over I guess. If the right third party experience came along I promise I'd buy it, but not CoD or AC and not games that have been on the shelf for months and you expect me to shell out full price for a sub-optimal version. And I think that's how many Wii U owners feel.

one has to wonder why they cant achieve that while the other 2(maybe not so much xone) do it seemingly effortlessly

Because they made some big mistakes and arent willing to lose billions to fix them like Microsoft/Sony are willing to do when they screw up. When u consider the entire Nintendo ecosystem, it's looking to be something like 85 million, give or take, this generation and that's while making foolish decisions, with a solid strategy that is executed well its completely feasible that they improve their standing next generation.

Perhaps, but maybe not, it's quite possible that consumers simply gravitate towards one central platform that offers all the major third party titles with some decent 1st party exclusives, but those aren't the keys. 

To be honest I really suspect the N64 probably only topped 30 million because a lot of people bought into it early on thinking it would be another NES/SNES ... the average joe had no idea what the economics of carts vs CDs was all about and up until that time "Nintendo" was synonmous with having the widest library/best third party support. 

I any moment i said that this is the unique reason why its a fail.

And please no, don't feel bad. Don't let my childish behavior upset you and kill your enjoyment on this site. I almost shed a tear bc of that :(

Nintendo fans (some) want DLC on the 3rd party games to complain how extorsive, useless, etc it is.

I'd actually prefer it if Nintendo cut off all 3rd party support except for select deals with 3rd party publishers and indies. That and they should create a team whose specific job is to port select 3rd party games to Wii U. Pare it down to the essentials and the games that the fans want in their library. It would mean that Nintendo is in charge of porting a game over. Would mean less crappy ports and would encourage fans to buy the Nintendo version.

Yet all that happened on PS (with CEO of Acti saying Sony needed to get their shit together and start selling PS3 and not make rubbish complicated HW)... we got several late late ports (like 2 years after), we got ME 2 without ME1, and all the other shit... guess what, the games still sold very good on PS, and most of the customers don't even follow all this BS on the web.

Yep, total control of their ecosystem... Nintendo doesn't even get to offer help or money to get a game on their system but suddenly they would divert 1st party dev time to port games to their system that we all now would flop. Sure.

im sorry but i was really referrng to strictly the home console and not the handheld. They never really made huge mistakes with the handheld nothing that couldnt be rectified with well games and price drop that it got (kinda like PS3 a bit) but that environment is much different than home console is.

So i still have to wonder why they cant acheive that? I mean what is the actual ecosystem of the home console part? Cause either they do real good like last time or they drop like a rock like this time. What would it take for them to have a console sell about 60 mil which is a decent middle ground IMHO. because neither N64, cube and Wii U have come even close to that. I thought Wii U would but alas