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ArchangelMadzz on 26 May 2015
tak13 said:
ArchangelMadzz said:


And people don't rape because their pedophiles. People rape because they put their desire above anyone else, feel the need for power and are just general scum. That doesn't exclude between pedophillia and heterosexuality. 


What's happening today and some people don't get rightly what I claim,of course some pedophiles can control theirself but if they rape a child it will because of being paedophile,only a paedophile has these desires about a child but if a heterosexual rapes a woman it won't be because he is heterosexual,it doesn't derive from his sexuality, but might be mentally disordered or having other problems(drugs,intoxication,anger,socioeconomic e.t.c...Can you distinguish the difference?

It's not only because he's a paedophile it's a range of other things that drives one to commit rape. Unless you think all paedophiles rape? Not all heterosexual men rape and if they do it's because of something else but the base urge is from their heterosexuallity. Same way not all paedophiles rape and when they do it's because of other things but the base urge is from their pedophillia. 



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ArchangelMadzz on 26 May 2015
fluky-nintendy said:
Mr.Playstation said:
fluky-nintendy said:


Because since it involves children, that can't be a grey area like there's a grey area for homosexuality or being a transgender e.g.. The main focus MUST be protecting the children (not the abuser) at all cost from these abusers, period. As others stated here, people with pedophilia are most likely to lack empathy and won't care about protecting kids from their own desires.

Of course we should protect the children but people with pedophilia shouldn't need to feel afraid, even to seek help. What they have is a sexual orientation which is very different from what is considered the norm, and while it is considered to be dangeroes they shouldn't be seperated from society. Most people discussing it here are very mature, though it isn't unlikely to find someone both out of this site and irl who say "Death to all pedophiles". At the end of the day their human too.

I understand your point from the beginning. You want them to live in society like normal people, I get that. But I think in this case there isn't a gray area where you can protect both. The focus must be protecting the weak first. How can pedophiles be protected? Only if it's the castration process, I really see no other solution to someone with the disorder to live in peace in society, unless of course he/she won't become an abuser (in that case it's not possible to be spotted anyway if the crime never existed). I am aware that are people with the disorder (it's on the DSM-5) that seek help and never really commit to the behaviors.

I guess getting psychological help for paedophiles whilst not letting them around children if they're shown to not be able to control themselves never entered your mind?



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ReimTime on 26 May 2015

Children are children. They have not developed sexually, and their brains have not matured. They should not be seen as potential mates by any mentally sound individual.
Pedos can't help themselves? Please don't try to justify such disgusting criminal behavior. Pedophilia is not a sexual orientation. Maybe they can't help themselves and maybe they were born that way, but that is nowhere near being an excuse.

"Why did you murder that woman, Steve?"
"I'm sorry detective, I was born this way! I can't help myself!"
"Oh, ok. Carry on, you're free to go."



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Puppyroach on 26 May 2015

It's not a sexual orientation but rather part of our sexuality, just like we might have a preference for the opposite or same sex. We all have these components inside us to various degrees. However, pedophilia is a deviation from the sexual norm since it means that an adult takes advantage of a minor and goes against what our society believes is right. I find it a disgusting act of abuse. We all have the capacity to be violent, so should we not condemn violent acts, that's the same principle.



sc94597 on 26 May 2015

I think everyone should read this article.

http://www.theawl.com/2014/08/the-pedophiles-who-didnt-want-to-hurt-children

Pedophiles should be encouraged to come out so that they can get the help they need and so that children can be protected.



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sc94597 on 26 May 2015
ReimTime said:
Children are children. They have not developed sexually, and their brains have not matured. They should not be seen as potential mates by any mentally sound individual.
Pedos can't help themselves? Please don't try to justify such disgusting criminal behavior. Pedophilia is not a sexual orientation. Maybe they can't help themselves and maybe they were born that way, but that is nowhere near being an excuse.

"Why did you murder that woman, Steve?"
"I'm sorry detective, I was born this way! I can't help myself!"
"Oh, ok. Carry on, you're free to go."

He was talking about the pedophiles who DON'T hurt children. Not the ones who do. 



sc94597 on 26 May 2015
Puppyroach said:
pedophilia - I find it a disgusting act of abuse. 

That is not the definition of pedophillia, that is the definition of child abuse. 



ReimTime on 26 May 2015
sc94597 said:
ReimTime said:
Children are children. They have not developed sexually, and their brains have not matured. They should not be seen as potential mates by any mentally sound individual.
Pedos can't help themselves? Please don't try to justify such disgusting criminal behavior. Pedophilia is not a sexual orientation. Maybe they can't help themselves and maybe they were born that way, but that is nowhere near being an excuse.

"Why did you murder that woman, Steve?"
"I'm sorry detective, I was born this way! I can't help myself!"
"Oh, ok. Carry on, you're free to go."

He was talking about the pedophiles who DON'T hurt children. Not the ones who do. 

I have a very biased stigma against pedophiles. I'm ducking out of this thread.



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Dunban67 on 26 May 2015
ArchangelMadzz said:
Dunban67 said:
regardless of a persons sexual orientation, how many of them go thru adulthood w out EVER acting on them? Vey few- so if a person is a pedofile the best thing they can do for society and themselves is voluntary castration (elimination of any desire) as to insure they never act out and destroy a childs life

Why would the question in this op ever need to be asked- it should be obvious to anyone other than those trying to justify it


And you know that how? Is there a study you can refer to?


how many registered/convicted pedifiles are there?  How many more are there that have not been caught?    How many of them thought they could control their desire?   How many victems are there?    Do you really need a study....really?



sc94597 on 26 May 2015
Dunban67 said:
ArchangelMadzz said:


And you know that how? Is there a study you can refer to?


how many registered/convicted pedifiles are there?  How many more are there that have not been caught?    How many of them thought they could control their desire?   How many victems are there?    Do you really need a study....really?


Zero - pedophilla is not a crime, child abuse is. I recommend you read this article. 

http://www.theawl.com/2014/08/the-pedophiles-who-didnt-want-to-hurt-children

People shouldn't be given up on because of their thoughts, but rather their actions.