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AbbathTheGrim on 31 May 2015
Mr Puggsly said:
GameMasterPC said:
Well Mr Puggsly PS4 exclusives are selling relatively around as well as XB1 exclusives compared to their userbases. And also, Sony has yet to release any of their major IP's on PS4, while MS already has Forza Motorsport 5 on XB1, which was outsold by 2 PS4 exclusives and TLOU: R. Halo: MCC didn't fair much better.

Thats the thing. PS4 has a much larger userbase yet its exclusives sell at par with X1. If the PS4 exclusives were what PS4 owners actually want they would be doing better. Sony needs to step it up, thats all Im saying.

Im not sure how many times I can repeat the same thing before some of you get it.

You need to repeat that you wrote until you yourself actually get it.

If that is your line of thinking then Micro are the ones who would need to step it up because what they have done isn't enough to get the gamers because, if they would do what gamers actually want, Xbone would be doing better than it actually has and not be so far behind than how the PS4 is.



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

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BluUltraSx on 31 May 2015
Mr Puggsly said:
GameMasterPC said:
Well Mr Puggsly PS4 exclusives are selling relatively around as well as XB1 exclusives compared to their userbases. And also, Sony has yet to release any of their major IP's on PS4, while MS already has Forza Motorsport 5 on XB1, which was outsold by 2 PS4 exclusives and TLOU: R. Halo: MCC didn't fair much better.

Thats the thing. PS4 has a much larger userbase yet its exclusives sell at par with X1. If the PS4 exclusives were what PS4 owners actually want they would be doing better. Sony needs to step it up, thats all Im saying.

Im not sure how many times I can repeat the same thing before some of you get it.

Step it up, why when they are killing the competition as it is.  Thats all that really matters to them and most of their product buyers it seems.  What ever you and other think seems irrelevent given the success of the product.  PS4 proves well how insignificant exclusives really are, wiiu really adds to that view.

Facts of game sales, software sales do not go up at the same rate as the user base does.  At a point a game might sale 10% more even if the user base is double.  



Mike_L on 31 May 2015
Mr Puggsly said:
GameMasterPC said:
Well Mr Puggsly PS4 exclusives are selling relatively around as well as XB1 exclusives compared to their userbases. And also, Sony has yet to release any of their major IP's on PS4, while MS already has Forza Motorsport 5 on XB1, which was outsold by 2 PS4 exclusives and TLOU: R. Halo: MCC didn't fair much better.

Thats the thing. PS4 has a much larger userbase yet its exclusives sell at par with X1. If the PS4 exclusives were what PS4 owners actually want they would be doing better. Sony needs to step it up, thats all Im saying.

Im not sure how many times I can repeat the same thing before some of you get it.

That's the thing. Both Gran Turismo, Uncharted, The Last of Us and God of War have yet to release on PS4. You're comparing PS exclusives that have a history of not selling huge numbers (Killzone and Infamous) with the biggest Xbox exclusives (Halo and Forza). Frankly, your logic is quite flawed.

I'm not sure have many times we can repeat the same thing before you get it.



Mr Puggsly on 31 May 2015
Mike_L said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Thats the thing. PS4 has a much larger userbase yet its exclusives sell at par with X1. If the PS4 exclusives were what PS4 owners actually want they would be doing better. Sony needs to step it up, thats all Im saying.

Im not sure how many times I can repeat the same thing before some of you get it.

That's the thing. Both Gran Turismo, Uncharted, The Last of Us and God of War have yet to release on PS4. You're comparing PS exclusives that have a history of not selling huge numbers (Killzone and Infamous) with the biggest Xbox exclusives (Halo and Forza). Frankly, your logic is quite flawed.

I'm not sure have many times we can repeat the same thing before you get it.


Remember when Sony was credited for making great new IPs? Now we just wait for their sequels I guess and excuse mediocre new IPs.

 

Again, the PS4 userbase is significantly bigger. If their 1st party games were notable they would sell significantly better than X1 exclusives. Just like 3rd party games tend to do significantly better on PS4.



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Mr Puggsly on 31 May 2015
BluUltraSx said:

Step it up, why when they are killing the competition as it is. 

Can't argue with that. Sounds like youre fine with their output of games. While I will gladly wait for them to make better games. Again, I genunely hope they make me want a PS4 in 2016.



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Carl on 31 May 2015
Mr Puggsly said:


Again, the PS4 userbase is significantly bigger. If their 1st party games were notable they would sell significantly better than X1 exclusives. Just like 3rd party games tend to do significantly better on PS4.


Ehhh, PS4 exclusives have significantly outsold Xbox One exclusives. This has been a common thing since the gen started and comes naturally with the larger userbase.

TLoU Remastered sold a Million more than MC Collection. Highest selling exclusive on PS4/One.
Killzone Shadowfall doubled Ryse, did a Million more than Dead Rising 3. Outsold every single XBO exclusive.
Knack(!) sold more than Ryse and Dead Rising 3. 
Infamous SS more than doubled Sunset Overdrive. Outsold every single XBO exclusive.
Driveclub has sold significantly more than Forza Horizon 2.
Bloodborne sold more than any 2015 release on XBO, within 1 Week of launch.



                            

Hynad on 31 May 2015
Carl2291 said:
Mr Puggsly said:


Again, the PS4 userbase is significantly bigger. If their 1st party games were notable they would sell significantly better than X1 exclusives. Just like 3rd party games tend to do significantly better on PS4.


Ehhh, PS4 exclusives have significantly outsold Xbox One exclusives. This has been a common thing since the gen started and comes naturally with the larger userbase.

TLoU Remastered sold a Million more than MC Collection. Highest selling exclusive on PS4/One.
Killzone Shadowfall doubled Ryse, did a Million more than Dead Rising 3. Outsold every single XBO exclusive.
Knack(!) sold more than Ryse and Dead Rising 3. 
Infamous SS more than doubled Sunset Overdrive. Outsold every single XBO exclusive.
Driveclub has sold significantly more than Forza Horizon 2.
Bloodborne sold more than any 2015 release on XBO, within 1 Week of launch.


Yes, but you know... Percentage of install base getting the games and all that. -__-



BluUltraSx on 31 May 2015
Mr Puggsly said:
BluUltraSx said:

Step it up, why when they are killing the competition as it is. 

Can't argue with that. Sounds like youre fine with their output of games. While I will gladly wait for them to make better games. Again, I genunely hope they make me want a PS4 in 2016.


Palyed more then 5 times the amount of PS4 games then x1 ones, so yahh no complains here.  



Mike_L on 31 May 2015
Mr Puggsly said:
Mike_L said:

That's the thing. Both Gran Turismo, Uncharted, The Last of Us and God of War have yet to release on PS4. You're comparing PS exclusives that have a history of not selling huge numbers (Killzone and Infamous) with the biggest Xbox exclusives (Halo and Forza). Frankly, your logic is quite flawed.

I'm not sure have many times we can repeat the same thing before you get it.


Remember when Sony was credited for making great new IPs? Now we just wait for their sequels I guess and excuse mediocre new IPs.

Gee x} Now you're just grasping man. You asked for the best selling games.. How the hell would I know which unreleased new IPs are gonna sell gangbusters?

Sony are still known and credited for making a lot of great new IPs and where some sell great (e.g. The Last os Us and Bloodborne) others don't (e.g. Tearaway and Puppeteer). But that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with quality.

Many new IPs on the way as well (e.g. Until Dawn and Horizon) but how would I know which ones turn out great and bestselling? What is your point really?



Mr Puggsly on 31 May 2015
Mike_L said:
Mr Puggsly said:


Remember when Sony was credited for making great new IPs? Now we just wait for their sequels I guess and excuse mediocre new IPs.

Gee x} Now you're just grasping man. You asked for the best selling games.. How the hell would I know which unreleased new IPs are gonna sell gangbusters?

Sony are still known and credited for making a lot of great new IPs and where some sell great (e.g. The Last os Us and Bloodborne) others don't (e.g. Tearaway and Puppeteer). But that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with quality.

Many new IPs on the way as well (e.g. Until Dawn and Horizon) but how would I know which ones turn out great and bestselling? What is your point really?

Some of the new IPs could have sold better if they were actually good.

Games like Tear Away and Puppeteer are niche, nobody expected big numbers.

Then there are games likeThe Order. That had the potential to be Sony's answer to Gears of War and it should have been. But they instead went to a more story driven direction and its being ignored. Now its being treated as Sony's answer to Ryse, which is a weird direction to go.



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