What I don't understand is the general negative reception to the addition of mellow mode. In my opinion, it's a fantastic thing because it means that the base game is not going to be unbelievably easy like Kirby's Epic Yarn by default. In the end, it's just an option to play mellow mode so I question the outrage.

Also, agreed on the attitude regarding 2D platformers. 

I like that the classic/mellow mode switch allows for it to be chill and accessible without removing the potential for challenge. Best of both worlds, look like.

It's also nice to see a retail 2D platformer. The attitude that the genre should be restricted to $10 indie games is toxic as fuck.

Few big companies would dare to waste milions of dolars and spend years of working on a 2D platformer.

And I apreciate that from Nintendo, a lot. 

If wasn´t for them the only 2D platformer at retail  for homeconsole with high production values in years would be Rayman Legends... before that Origins, and before that... I can´t think on a single one more.

For good or for bad, only Nintendo dares to do things like Tropical Freeze, Rainbow Curse, Epic Yarn, Woolly World, etc.

The industry is homogenous enough already without another great genre being relegated to the indie cesspit.

Indie cesspit? Really?

Sometimes you say some really questionable things, Curl.

Indie cesspit? Really?

Sometimes you say some really questionable things, Curl.

I agree wit him. There´s some great 2D indie platformers (Fez, super meat boy, Shovel Knight...) but you can´t compare that with full retail games, is really sad when you see a genre with games that are not allowed to cost more than 15/20$ or have a tecnicall level beyond a HD 16 bits game.

Imagine if suddlenly rpgs are treated like 2D platformers, we will have great rpgs, yes, but they would have to be like a Super Nintendo game, something more like Pier Solar than Xenoblade. And that´s sad.

So you agree with him that indies are part of a cesspit?

And I thought graphics weren't important to make a game good. Gameplay is king and all that jazz? 

It's not true anymore? Hmmm....

The more you know.

Without some tecnicall level and some capital inversion you can´t make a game so atmospherical, gorgeous and intense like Tropical Freeze. You don´t need 400 milions $, but dont try to make something like that with 200.000$, because you can´t. Same with things like Wooly World, its aesthetics, music, realistic physhics and ilumination can´t be made with 4$. And while that is not what you need to make a good game, we are not on 1994 anyrmore, give something that looks and sound like today. I can live with both worlds, retail games are not going to kill the indies.

Go play Axiom Verge and then come back and say that again.