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tbone51 on 24 April 2015
PxlStorm said:
The Mii costumes are being charged for. That's bad DLC, Sakurai.


Do you want him to give that out for free or sumtin?



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tbone51 on 24 April 2015
Signalstar said:
With regards ti the 100% at the time of release issue, doesn't Splatoon have a multiplayer mode scheduled to come at a later time? I think it will be free but still flies in the face of what he is saying.


What does that have to do with Sakurai, he's not making Splatoon nor is he head of Nintendo :)



PxlStorm on 24 April 2015
tbone51 said:
PxlStorm said:
The Mii costumes are being charged for. That's bad DLC, Sakurai.


Do you want him to give that out for free or sumtin?


Do you think that paying about 1$ for ONE costume is justified?



tbone51 on 24 April 2015
PxlStorm said:
tbone51 said:


Do you want him to give that out for free or sumtin?


Do you think that paying about 1$ for ONE costume is justified?


dont you mean.... 75cents? But seriously. Yeah for the monkey outfit. The protoman/MM seem fine to me. $6 for the entire bundle.

Not ideal for everybody sure, dont think many care. They are "Mii's" afterall. That said, only pointing out that 1 dlc? How about free DLC with character dlc at $4 or $2.50 each if by for both games? :)



pokoko on 24 April 2015
Cloudman said:


How is this Day 1 DLC? Those are physical goods you can get if you want. They do have extra costumes in them, but they are collectable goods you can get or not. I don`t really see how this is Day 1 DLC.

It's ... DLC that is avaliable for a fee on Day One.  Day One DLC.

I mean, you can get them or not?  That's true for all DLC.  They're literally developing DLC and putting it on toys so more people will buy them.  Exactly as he said, they're doing it on Day One because that's where the money is at.



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pokoko on 24 April 2015
sundin13 said:
pokoko said:

It's hard to tell if he is or is not including Nintendo as following the "easiest way to make money" in that blurb, which is why I phrased my post the way I did.  If he is, then good for him for admiting it.

It still doesn't change the fact that many people who were universally against Day One DLC are now throwing out excuses and justifications for Day One DLC.


I think you are stretching the argument a bit...Day One DLC as it exists now is generally considered to be one of the more minor issues, if it is considered an issue at all. When Day One DLC is extremely minor stuff like cosmetics, there is really no reason to complain about it and that is really all it is in Splatoon (as I described above, the challenges add nothing and the costumes are costmetic and seemingly single player only).

What I read Sakurai to be talking about are the instances in which it feels as if a meaningful part of the game has been removed, from important story content, to important characters or actually finishing the base game. Cosmetics aren't the issue and if anyone makes them out to be, that seems like an incredibly petty complaint.

What you're saying "isn't considered an issue at all" had plenty of people up in arms on these forums not that long ago.  If it's no longer considered an issue, why do you think that is?  The answer is an obvious one but I would probably be banned for saying it, even though it's absolutely true.

As for my own opinion, cosmetic DLC has never bothered me.  As I've said many times before, let people with money to burn subsidize my own experience all they want.  More money to developers is a good thing in the long run.

Even most of the DLC that people complain about as being "split up" probably isn't.  Games are rarely thrown together as developers go.  Instead, they are painstakingly planned out before any coding actually begins, which includes having writers write DLC.  There is a LOT of quality DLC out there not made by Nintendo.  

The problem I have with Amiibo DLC is that it's locked behind expensive toys.  This is an intentional incentive to buy Amiibo and anyone who says otherwise is lying.  They WANT and EXPECT some people say, "I really like that costume, so I guess I need to buy this Amiibo."  If not, then it would be avaliable separately.

Let me ask you this, and I'd like an honest answer--if EA, long before Amiibo were announced, had locked cosmetic armor upgrades for Titanfall behind mecha toys that were avaliable Day One in special bundles, how do you think this forum would have reacted?  I think we all know how many "lol EA" posts would have been made.



KingdomHeartsFan on 24 April 2015
IamAwsome said:
pokoko said:

 

As someone stated before, the Amiibo stuff is a bonus; you don't need that to actually get the full game experience, unlike Dead Space 3. 

You do in Yoshie's Wolly World, Nintendo said themselves using amibo helps to expand the gameplay in Yoshie's Wolly World.



EricFabian on 24 April 2015
pokoko said:
Cloudman said:


How is this Day 1 DLC? Those are physical goods you can get if you want. They do have extra costumes in them, but they are collectable goods you can get or not. I don`t really see how this is Day 1 DLC.

It's ... DLC that is avaliable for a fee on Day One.  Day One DLC.

I mean, you can get them or not?  That's true for all DLC.  They're literally developing DLC and putting it on toys so more people will buy them.  Exactly as he said, they're doing it on Day One because that's where the money is at.


While I understand your logic and agree, the amiibo can be used in others games, so is not that overpriced



pokoko on 24 April 2015
EricFabian said:
pokoko said:

It's ... DLC that is avaliable for a fee on Day One.  Day One DLC.

I mean, you can get them or not?  That's true for all DLC.  They're literally developing DLC and putting it on toys so more people will buy them.  Exactly as he said, they're doing it on Day One because that's where the money is at.


While I understand your logic and agree, the amiibo can be used in others games, so is not that overpriced

I don't really know much about the total potential value the Splatoon Amiibo hold, so you might have a good point there.  However, I still think each individual piece of DLC for each individual game should be avaliable for purchase on the Nintendo online store.  After all, someone might not want to buy the other games for which that specific Amiibo offers DLC.



ReimTime on 24 April 2015

In my very humble opinion:
Good examples of DLC: The Witcher 3, Fallout 3, Skyrim, RDR Undead Nightmare
Bad examples of DLC: Destiny, Evolve, TLOU gun and perk DLC



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