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There is some pretty cool AR on the Xbox 360 - Happy Action Theatre/Kinect TV Party (Same game, different names, one is the expansion). One of the ones that impressed me the most is you can get struck by lighting and dance as a skeleton (and even see what is behind you!) Really play 'the couch is lava!' And destroy cities as a giant Godzilla/King Kong monster.

Another one is a free Kinect Labs demo for The Advengers, where you and a friend can be a super hero. I was rather surprised when I set the couch on fire. It's doing some amazing math crunching on 10 year old hardware (360 came out in 05.)

But those you only see in the TV screen. The helmet could make it so immersive. I am looking forward to a demo.

The major problem (assuming it work) would be not every wanting to leave the world of something like Elder Scrolls VI.



 

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Awesome, because you know...watching tv is way better when you can see the people in front of the green screen at the same time.

This doesn't really look practicle in any real sense. Sure you can put on a performance like that...and everyone just watches a screen instead of the performance. Really what's the benefit over simply using CGI. Is it that it's improv? I suppose if you added some glasses that could display it for people viewing a theatre performance, but imagine the costs. 



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Wtf even was that. It looks like they're just on a stage playing some eyetoy game. 

People on stage looking at big screen to see things that aren't real and then reacting to them awkwardly. I honestly don't understand what's impressive about this in the slightest. It's not 2004 anymore.



VR and AR are trying to achieve two different things, comparing them is like apples and oranges, both scrumptious fruits



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kitler53 said:
AR is going to be a more mass-appeal device but not in games. AR will probably be the next "iphone" if they get navigation and texting and video conferencing done right.


but AR is shit for games. VR has more potential here because it is more fun to be put into a games world then to have a game brought into my boring ass living room.


^ This.

AR will be good for a great many things.

Gameing isnt one of them.  VR > AR for gameing.

 

AR will be good for social media type stuff, haveing a "liveing" room thats alive ect (imagine buying "theme's" to your rooms, and changeing the way your rooms look every other day or so).

 

I feel like AR is farther out in the future than VR is. And the software required to make it work is going to be insane.



KingdomHeartsFan said:

It looks promising in other things besides gaming, but looking strictly at gaming I havn't seen anything promising, even where the guy uses his imagination to come up with ideas they sound really bad.  It might be good for simple free games like Fruit Ninja.

There are a couple of ideas that I've communicated to Microsoft that works better with AR than with VR, though one would work with VR too.  The other, I'm not sure you could do with VR.

The benefit of AR is that you're able to see an unaltered view around you.  VR glasses with a forward facing camera would offer a similar function but you're constantly using battery power to operate the display and you can't focus on what the camera isn't focused on.  With AR glasses, you can focus on anything you want, including what is being displayed.

Yes, some of those ideas may be simple, but they could also be very creative and fun experiences.   But again those are experiences that VR and AR devices can share, but I think the benefit of AR is that you can have AR devices on all the time, on your head, and only when you're actually using the lenses to display information or content will you be draining the battery.  They don't shut you out of the rest of the world.  The benefit of this is that you could happen upon an experience walking down the street. 

And just because they're AR glasses doesn't mean that they can't offer a similar experience to VR glasses.  The ideal situation is that you would use them in conjection with a regular display (TV/Monitor), but it's clear from what Microsoft is talking about that HoloLens would be capable of playing games streamed from a Windows 10 PC. 

We'll see this fall, though, I guess.




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^ this video is about haveing chips implanted in your brain, and your eye's modifed to "experiance" this augmented reality.

(its sci-fi atm.... AR like that isnt possible currently).

 

Thats faaaaaar far away future... and not everyone is going to want to have something like that.

The AR that microsoft has right now is with projtectors that puts pictures onto walls.

 

Its nothing like the AR in that video.



JRPGfan said:
Vasto said:


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^ this video is about haveing chips implanted in your brain, and your eye's modifed to "experiance" this augmented reality.

(its sci-fi atm.... AR like that isnt possible currently).

 

Thats faaaaaar far away future... and not everyone is going to want to have something like that.

The AR that microsoft has right now is with projtectors that puts pictures onto walls.

 

Its nothing like the AR in that video.


Its just an example of the possiblilties of AR. The end of the video was just way too creepy though.