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Gammalad on 28 March 2015
zorg1000 said:
Gammalad said:


When it comes to releasing new consoles when your old one isn't doing too well SEGA isn't the shining example of that.
Nintendo is known for supporting their home consoles for at least 5 years. Nintendo is not in a position to hurt consumer trust. As a Wii U owner I would not buy the NX if it dropped next year at all. Because how do I know Nintendo isn't going to abandon ship on that one if things start going south? Not many people would be too keen that after buying a PS4 or XBO that they would have to run out and buy the PS5 and the XB2(?) 3-4 years later. And like I have said many times if anything the NX is more than likely Nintendo's next handheld system and not home console as it fits more of the criteria for handhelds than it does for the home console. Also for the fact we won't be seeing it till mid next year also tells me we won't see a solid release for it till the following year.


Thank you for conveniently ignoring two of my points.

Did u feel burned by Nintendo when GBA was replaced 3.5 years after launch?

Did Xbox fans feel burned when 360 released 4 years after launch?

Ur Sega examples are in the slightest the same thing Nintendo would be doing. Sega lost trust because they repeatedly dropped support before they really gave a shot. Sega CD & 32x were both expensive add-ons that got very little support followed by releasing the most expensive next-gen console that also got very little support in the 3 years it was on the market. Sega pissed off fans by not supporting their devices, they pissed off retailers by not letting them in on the surprise early launch, they also pissed off developers by making hard to develop for hardware and not letting them know about the surprise early launch as well. Sega pissed off everybody from 94-98 while losing money in the process.

And no, Nintendo is not known for supporting their consoles for 5 years. What relevant titles did Nintendo 64 get after 2000? Paper Mario. What relevant titles did Gamecube get after 2005? Just Zelda. What relevant titles did Wii get after 2010? Zelda & Kirby.


I didn't conviently ignore them. I just didn't see a point. The DS came out to be a companion device to the GBA, which went on to have a life of its own, the Xbox was Microsofts very first console so to me they have room to error. When it coems to this topic the Wii U is stuck between a rock and a hard place when it comes to the consumers.  And yes Nintendo is known for supporting consoles for at least 5 years, all of Nintendo's home consoels have had a life span of at least 5 years. 



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Soundwave on 28 March 2015
zorg1000 said:
Gammalad said:


When it comes to releasing new consoles when your old one isn't doing too well SEGA isn't the shining example of that.
Nintendo is known for supporting their home consoles for at least 5 years. Nintendo is not in a position to hurt consumer trust. As a Wii U owner I would not buy the NX if it dropped next year at all. Because how do I know Nintendo isn't going to abandon ship on that one if things start going south? Not many people would be too keen that after buying a PS4 or XBO that they would have to run out and buy the PS5 and the XB2(?) 3-4 years later. And like I have said many times if anything the NX is more than likely Nintendo's next handheld system and not home console as it fits more of the criteria for handhelds than it does for the home console. Also for the fact we won't be seeing it till mid next year also tells me we won't see a solid release for it till the following year.


Thank you for conveniently ignoring two of my points.

Did u feel burned by Nintendo when GBA was replaced 3.5 years after launch?

Did Xbox fans feel burned when 360 released 4 years after launch?

Ur Sega examples are in the slightest the same thing Nintendo would be doing. Sega lost trust because they repeatedly dropped support before they really gave a shot. Sega CD & 32x were both expensive add-ons that got very little support followed by releasing the most expensive next-gen console that also got very little support in the 3 years it was on the market. Sega pissed off fans by not supporting their devices, they pissed off retailers by not letting them in on the surprise early launch, they also pissed off developers by making hard to develop for hardware and not letting them know about the surprise early launch as well. Sega pissed off everybody from 94-98 while losing money in the process.

And no, Nintendo is not known for supporting their consoles for 5 years. What relevant titles did Nintendo 64 get after 2000? Paper Mario. What relevant titles did Gamecube get after 2005? Just Zelda. What relevant titles did Wii get after 2010? Zelda & Kirby.


Just to add to that ... most people got their NES in 1987-1989, the system wasn't even widely distributed on a national scale in North America until '87. I for example got my NES in summer of 1989. 

For most people Nintendo replaced the NES with the SNES after maybe 2-3 years. And lemme tell ya ... most kids were *thrilled* that the Super NES was coming not unhappy. In fact I remember at the time that it felt like Nintendo was taking forever to launch the Super NES, lol. 

New hardware is a good thing people. Imagine playing Super Mario World or Zelda III on the NES instead? Or even today, would you prefer Mario Kart 8 or Xenoblade X in 480p with badly downgraded visuals on the Wii? 

And you're right the "Nintendo supports consoles for 5 years" thing is a myth ... it's more like 4 years at best, the last year is basically just a throw-away year where you get maybe one notable new game. 



Materia-Blade on 28 March 2015

Baseless speculation =/= obvious. even if it happens somehow, it's still baseless speculation right now.



Materia-Blade on 28 March 2015
Soundwave said:
The smoking gun is the lack of a trailer or anything at E3 2015. C'mon ... there's absolutely no reason not to have a small trailer at least, even one that revolves around the story for a game that's been in development for almost 4 years and that they've already shown with two previous trailers/gameplay demos.

The reason they can't show it is because it's being tailored to the NX platform (whatever that is) and they can't very well show a game before the unveil the system itself.

They will unveil NX IMO sometime in early 2016 (allowing New 3DS and Wii U to have this holiday season) and announce that they've "magically discovered new wonderful gameplay elements" on the NX platform.

the smoking gun you're missing is that not showing at E3 still gives them about 180 days in 2015 to show it on a direct or something.



Soundwave on 28 March 2015
Materia-Blade said:
Soundwave said:
The smoking gun is the lack of a trailer or anything at E3 2015. C'mon ... there's absolutely no reason not to have a small trailer at least, even one that revolves around the story for a game that's been in development for almost 4 years and that they've already shown with two previous trailers/gameplay demos.

The reason they can't show it is because it's being tailored to the NX platform (whatever that is) and they can't very well show a game before the unveil the system itself.

They will unveil NX IMO sometime in early 2016 (allowing New 3DS and Wii U to have this holiday season) and announce that they've "magically discovered new wonderful gameplay elements" on the NX platform.

the smoking gun you're missing is that not showing at E3 still gives them about 180 days in 2015 to show it on a direct or something.

Zelda is their biggest IP, why not show at least a 30 second trailer, and E3 is basically the biggest Direct of the year (they way they do the show now, it's effectively a Direct presentation). 

It makes no sense. Especially since they've already shown the game twice already. 



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Metallox on 28 March 2015

Well, I guess you want a 2008 game in full 2016. I mean, no pun intended, but come on, you want Nintendo to release a 7th gen looking game in their 9th generation. That's unacceptable.

Even so, we don't know anything about this NX thing, so I don't think Captain Obvious is here in the slightest.



My bet with The_Liquid_Laser: I think the Switch won't surpass the PS2 as the best selling system of all time. If it does, I'll play a game of a list that The_Liquid_Laser will provide, I will have to play it for 50 hours or complete it, whatever comes first. 

Soundwave on 28 March 2015
Metallox said:
Well, I guess you want a 2008 game in full 2016. I mean, no pun intended, but come on, you want Nintendo to release a 7th gen looking game in their 9th generation. That's unacceptable.

Even so, we don't know anything about this NX thing, so I don't think Captain Obvious is here in the slightest.


We're talking about the same company that recently launched a home console with this game:

To be honest, this:

In say 1080p 60 fps would not look out of place on a PS4 or XB1 at all. 

Wii U + NX Portable launch in 720p, NX Home version can perhaps run the game in 1080p with maybe a few added effects. 



zorg1000 on 28 March 2015
Gammalad said:
zorg1000 said:


Thank you for conveniently ignoring two of my points.

Did u feel burned by Nintendo when GBA was replaced 3.5 years after launch?

Did Xbox fans feel burned when 360 released 4 years after launch?

Ur Sega examples are in the slightest the same thing Nintendo would be doing. Sega lost trust because they repeatedly dropped support before they really gave a shot. Sega CD & 32x were both expensive add-ons that got very little support followed by releasing the most expensive next-gen console that also got very little support in the 3 years it was on the market. Sega pissed off fans by not supporting their devices, they pissed off retailers by not letting them in on the surprise early launch, they also pissed off developers by making hard to develop for hardware and not letting them know about the surprise early launch as well. Sega pissed off everybody from 94-98 while losing money in the process.

And no, Nintendo is not known for supporting their consoles for 5 years. What relevant titles did Nintendo 64 get after 2000? Paper Mario. What relevant titles did Gamecube get after 2005? Just Zelda. What relevant titles did Wii get after 2010? Zelda & Kirby.


I didn't conviently ignore them. I just didn't see a point. The DS came out to be a companion device to the GBA, which went on to have a life of its own, the Xbox was Microsofts very first console so to me they have room to error. When it coems to this topic the Wii U is stuck between a rock and a hard place when it comes to the consumers.  And yes Nintendo is known for supporting consoles for at least 5 years, all of Nintendo's home consoels have had a life span of at least 5 years. 

Nintendo only said it was a 3rd pillar because they needed a back up plan if it didn't catch on, it was always meant to be GBA successor.

They don't support consoles for 5 years, just because it exists for 5 doesn't mean it was supported. Like I just said, N64/GC/Wii support dried up after the 4th year, each only got a couple major titles after that point. Can u name me one single major GC title in 2006 other than Twilight Princess?



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EricFabian on 28 March 2015

is not obvious, at all



PaulGaleNetwork on 28 March 2015

Even with the delay, I wouldn't be surprised to see a little something at E3 this year. Nintendo could always bust out some screenshots to show how much its improved visually or a small trailer. We'll see.