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Forums - Nintendo - Prediction: The Nintendo Fusion will sell 80m+

 

Do you agree?

Yes, it will sell 80m+ 112 40.58%
 
No, it will sell less than 80m 164 59.42%
 
Total:276

There won't be a Nintendo Fusion. Nintendo is way too un-open-minded for a good idea like that. We will get a console with a forced gimmick and a new handheld with a new forced gimmick as well.



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Soundwave said:
teigaga said:
Lol, too many "ifs" and "buts". The bottom line though...

The software output for the gamecube was amazing but here it sits at 22m

Third party support and desire for gamers to play third party content on the system is the only thing getting you 30m+ in hardware sales and there's nothing in the fusion concept to secure that.


If this gen was a Fusion platform you'd have roughly 55 million portables and 10 million consoles sold through already. 

So ... the portable aspect of it will likely carry the bulk of the sales, whatever they sell with the home version will likely just be gravy/icing on the cake. 

Well I thought he meant home console when he said "Next Nintendo console" but again this refers to the "ifs" and "buts". Are they 2 systems with a similar libary, are they the same? If we're counting handheld and home console sales as one system, well sure. The Wii U+3DS will break 90m, so its not much of a bold prediction in that case :(





teigaga said:
Soundwave said:


If this gen was a Fusion platform you'd have roughly 55 million portables and 10 million consoles sold through already. 

So ... the portable aspect of it will likely carry the bulk of the sales, whatever they sell with the home version will likely just be gravy/icing on the cake. 

Well he specified he meant home console when he said "Next Nintendo console" but again this refers to the "ifs" and "buts". Are they 2 systems with a similar libary, are they the same? If we're counting handheld and home console sales as one system, well sure. The Wii U+3DS will break 90m, so its not much of a bold prediction in that case :(



Well you can also see very clearly from that why Nintendo would want to go Fusion ... right now they can still sell 90 million hardware units (give or take) even in a "weak" generation for them, but you have games like Splatoon, Bayo 2, Mario Kart 8, etc. stuck on only a small portion of that. 

So creating a unified singular platform and simply letting the consumer choose which hardware variant they want (home or portable) would be very appealling to them. 



Since i dont have any actual real info on the next nintendo system i will reserve judgement for now.



Soundwave said:

I doubt it will be that exactly.

It will be the handheld chip on both devices, but you'll have to buy seperate devices to play on your TV. 

Same deal as Vita + Vita TV ... you can't just hook up your Vita to your TV, you have to buy a Vita TV for that. 

Except I think in Nintendo's case, the console version will be more powerful, they could just literally even just use 2x-3x the CPU/GPU cores. Mobile parts are small, power efficient, and usually scale in cost very nicely, making a "stackable" console variant very easy to do. 

The home console variant of this would sell worse then the Vita. Why would they do this?? :(




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teigaga said:
Soundwave said:

I doubt it will be that exactly.

It will be the handheld chip on both devices, but you'll have to buy seperate devices to play on your TV. 

Same deal as Vita + Vita TV ... you can't just hook up your Vita to your TV, you have to buy a Vita TV for that. 

Except I think in Nintendo's case, the console version will be more powerful, they could just literally even just use 2x-3x the CPU/GPU cores. Mobile parts are small, power efficient, and usually scale in cost very nicely, making a "stackable" console variant very easy to do. 

The home console variant of this would sell worse then the Vita. Why would they do this?? :(


Because lets take a game like Zelda U or Splatoon for example. 

Right now Nintendo can only sell that game to about 10-15 million users (so it's not like Wii U is outselling the Vita anyway by any big measure). And those games probably cost a pretty penny to make too, HD development ain't cheap on games of this scale. 

Under a Fusion set up these games would be looking at 60+ million users to sell too. Likely meaning most of their big game IP would at least double in sales. 

The seperate console/portable lines doesn't make sense for Nintendo anymore, they likely can make (a lot) more money with a Fusion setup because of higher software sales. 

It's also an idea that wasn't possible in the past, in the past you couldn't use mobile chips to reasonably build a decent home console, but today you can, if you put two or three Apple A8 processors (the iPhone 6 chip) for example into a small box, that arguably would be more powerful than the Wii U in most ways.

Today you can make an HD platform with reasonably nice looking graphics using the same mobile components that are in portable devices like smartphones. That wasn't an option for Nintendo in the past, otherwise who knows, they may have gone Fusion a while ago if they could have. 



I doubt Nintendo can make a comeback from the Wii U. It would have killed any other company but their cash reserves is what saves them. The Wii U's successor will be the last mainstream console from Nintendo.



Well considering 3DS+Wii U sales are on track to sell 80-90 million (Wii U 15-20, 3DS 65-70) then this isn't really a crazy prediction.



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Until the Fusion exists, I predict it will sell 0 units because I don't think it will exist.

Iwata said the platforms would be "like brothers" as in similar development pipelines allowing for fluidity within teams and select cross platform titles. Not that the two will share one identity and one library and essentially one set of specs. Mark my words, the handheld and console will still have their own identities and their own libraries with some overlap where it makes sense (Kirby games, NSMB games, etc). The console will be the more powerful by a country mile, just as always. 

What they are doing is making the development similar between them so that they can maximize their company's efficiency in terms of development. They are also probably working to make as many of their engines as scalable as possible so that they can limit the number of tool sets that they need to learn.   That's the end game here.  Not what is essentially one device for handheld and console (or two essentially identical devices with the exact same library)



i still dont believe in this fusion nonsense so i cant comment on that.



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