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That outrage shoulda been there from day 1.



Scoobes said:
Well, it's not like they can charge PC gamers for something they've had for free for years and get for free from competing services like Steam. So this is expected and MS should never have charged for Live in the first place.

Now Sony have jumped on the bandwagon and it's ever so slightly annoying that console gaming online costs. I sympathise, but I'm glad I game on both platforms.

You know what would be funny is if, now that Sony has also put online multiplayer behind a paywall via PS Plus, M$ does a complete 180 and allows all aspects of XBL services to be free for all Xbox gamers.  It would certainly put Sony in a tough spot as M$ could afford to eat the cost of losing that revenue stream.

It'll never happen though... both companies know that XBL Gold and PS Plus memberships are far too lucrative for them to completely do away with.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

Chazore said:
I waited for someone to post this.

After reading the article two days ago all I can say is that XBL gamers have no right to be angry, after all they never bothered to put up a fight in the first place like PC users have done for years, the majority of PC games have always had free online, we've even had the ability to host private servers and all while people on X360 thought it was totally fine to keep paying a sub in thinking their online services improve with all the money thrown in, the problem with that is that they haven't and they still don't realise this.

I don't see why I should start paying for online when I already pay for my electricity, pay for my heardware,pay for my games and then pay my ISP, I don't see why I should ever have to fork over extra cash for next to nothing in return, the amount of money that has been poured over the last 8 years of XBL should have made most online multiplayer experiences unmatched to those that are free, that hasn't happened in the slightest, the only thing that has improved is parts of the store with some slight UI upgrades, something that Sony, Valve,Origin,Blizzard and hell even Uplay have done for free.

The sad part is now Sony and MS are in on the pay sub for online this gen, MS started it last gen and now both parties are fooling people into believing paying to play all your multiplayer games online is a good thing when it;s really not, I've been having an absolute blast playing Planetside 2 online, a free game that doesn't cost a penny with free online and no sub required, I can play Diablo 3, battlefield series, COD series, just about every multiplayer game online for free besides certain MMO's (but that's a different can of worms and business model).

The only way I would see paying online being good is if multiplayer servers were the cream of the crop, state of the art with bleeding edge hardware that made it so we didn't face day 1 or week 1-2 online issues, where you hardly drop out of a game and if you do it's entirely on your ISP, where you can see what your money goes into instead of just watching your balance deplete and hope it goes towards bettering your online experience.

I will admit I was a sucker for a few years on my 360 but it wasn't for a whole 8 years and I realised in a shorter time that none of the money I was giving went towards bettering my online multiplayer experiences, in fact most of the experiences at the time were via p2p type conections instead of actual dedicated servers because it's already a known fact that many businesses love to cut corners and save money at the expense of the very customer they want to try pleasing but still rip off.

I hope this makes them realise that paying to play online multiplayer on a console is complete bullcrap, you can claim it all on security but that would net you a complete invalidation with what's happened to PSN and XBL over the years.

free is better than paying, especially when you don't know where your money is going and what's happening around you.

Blame Nintendo and SEGA for pay-subscriptions for online play & features on consoles... they started it.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

I had no idea it was free! That's not fair :/ .



    

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NightDragon83 said:
Scoobes said:
Well, it's not like they can charge PC gamers for something they've had for free for years and get for free from competing services like Steam. So this is expected and MS should never have charged for Live in the first place.

Now Sony have jumped on the bandwagon and it's ever so slightly annoying that console gaming online costs. I sympathise, but I'm glad I game on both platforms.

You know what would be funny is if, now that Sony has also put online multiplayer behind a paywall via PS Plus, M$ does a complete 180 and allows all aspects of XBL services to be free for all Xbox gamers.  It would certainly put Sony in a tough spot as M$ could afford to eat the cost of losing that revenue stream.

It'll never happen though... both companies know that XBL Gold and PS Plus memberships are far too lucrative for them to completely do away with.

If the Xbo fans complains a lot.... maybe microsoft will have that in consideration. If they do a barrell roll and make it free on xbo then PS4 will be in a hard situation.

But it won´t happen, its money, a lot of money, for absolutely nothing (imo), that´s a big deal.



Scoobes said:
Well, it's not like they can charge PC gamers for something they've had for free for years and get for free from competing services like Steam. So this is expected and MS should never have charged for Live in the first place.

Now Sony have jumped on the bandwagon and it's ever so slightly annoying that console gaming online costs. I sympathise, but I'm glad I game on both platforms.


Think of it like this. 

Try catching a mouse in an open space. Much harder to be done. (Open format OS)

Try catching a mouse when cornered. Funnel the mouse into a trap, and then lure his friends into the funnel. (Closed format) 

;)



Goodnightmoon said:
NightDragon83 said:
Scoobes said:
Well, it's not like they can charge PC gamers for something they've had for free for years and get for free from competing services like Steam. So this is expected and MS should never have charged for Live in the first place.

Now Sony have jumped on the bandwagon and it's ever so slightly annoying that console gaming online costs. I sympathise, but I'm glad I game on both platforms.

You know what would be funny is if, now that Sony has also put online multiplayer behind a paywall via PS Plus, M$ does a complete 180 and allows all aspects of XBL services to be free for all Xbox gamers.  It would certainly put Sony in a tough spot as M$ could afford to eat the cost of losing that revenue stream.

It'll never happen though... both companies know that XBL Gold and PS Plus memberships are far too lucrative for them to completely do away with.

If the Xbo fans complains a lot.... maybe microsoft will have that in consideration. If they do a barrell roll and make it free on xbo then PS4 will be in a hard situation.

But it won´t happen, its money, a lot of money, for absolutly nothing, that´s a big deal.

but could you imagine it? Sony would be forced to go back to the PS3 way and that would be great for everything



TheSting said:
*some* console owners are mad


Well yes, I just so happen to have caught the news early just like I did when Cinemablend was the only site that called MS out on DRM. Only a few gamers knew about it. Within days everyone knew about this. For Microsofts sake lets hope it doesnt surface by monday.



NightDragon83 said:
Scoobes said:
Well, it's not like they can charge PC gamers for something they've had for free for years and get for free from competing services like Steam. So this is expected and MS should never have charged for Live in the first place.

Now Sony have jumped on the bandwagon and it's ever so slightly annoying that console gaming online costs. I sympathise, but I'm glad I game on both platforms.

You know what would be funny is if, now that Sony has also put online multiplayer behind a paywall via PS Plus, M$ does a complete 180 and allows all aspects of XBL services to be free for all Xbox gamers.  It would certainly put Sony in a tough spot as M$ could afford to eat the cost of losing that revenue stream.

It'll never happen though... both companies know that XBL Gold and PS Plus memberships are far too lucrative for them to completely do away with.

LOL Damn. That would've been slick. Microsoft dropped the price of Xbox Live as well.