Poeople really need to quit trying to paint The Order as the victim here. A short, qte filled, single player only game will almost always get slammed.

I think it's more worring, when people start judging a game solely on their artstyle or number of pixels, textures quality and fps 

 

 

edit: fps no longer because "cinematic experience"

 

 

If length is such a big dea, why don't more people play jrpgs?

Captain_Yuri said: With that being said, I don't personally care either ways cause the reason I wont be getting it (apart from not having a ps4 but even if I did) is cause I don't like the black bars and not really cause of its "length" but thats just my opinion on the matter anyway

You see, even you who is trying his best to make an argument for some rationale behind game at 60$ should be around 10 hours, a game at 40$ around 6 12 (no matter the production values) what about the very long RPGs out there, should people pay 360$ for a 60 hour quest? What is considered padding (too many ennemies will make the quest much longer... big empty fields that you have to traverse will make the game longer too... or just long dialogs can stretch it not that I think that these aspects are inherently wrong...

We could as well put a value on size, a 20GB game is worth less than a 45GB one? after all it has to offer more somewhere to be this big?

I don't think there is a right answer, Metal Gear GZ was pretty short, but it had amazing production values and it's hard to argue it should be considered the same value as a game like Hotlie Miami (which I love too and got for free on PS+)... I am pretty sure hotline miami was much longer, however I spent about as much time on both (I have no idea how people finished Metal Gear in 1 hour or so, the first time I play I explore a lot and get acquinted to the area, it muat have taken me around 4 hours to finish).

As for the black bars... I can't force you to not see them, but I find it irrational, obviously, if that stopped you, there must have been other aspects that bothered you with the game, there is so much negativity around it and its coverage, I can't wrap myself around the kind of coverage it got, it makes zero sense how this game was singled out.

RolStoppable said: theprof00 said: If length is such a big dea, why don't more people play jrpgs? Because maturity and manliness still have utmost priority. It's no fun to watch emo kids running around and killing rabbits and mushrooms.

I just realized you're right. Lost Odyssey does take itself incredibly seriously.

oh for the sake of the argument, here are some comparison points:

Acording to How Long to Beat: Game Average Rushed Super Mario World 5h38m 2h51m Super Metroid 8h05m 4h22m Resident Evil 6h30m 4h47m Half-Life 12h04m 7h58m BioShock 12h21m 8h40m Silent Hill 2 8h08m 5h20m God of War 9h05m 6h ShadowoftheColossus9h33m 6h48m Metal Gear Solid 11h13m 8h24m Perfect Dark 10h37m 5h56m More recent games: Uncharted 8h54m 5h33m Vanquish 6h13m 4h23m Metal Gear Rising 6h37m 4h33m Bayonneta 2 9h24m 7h35m Infamous SS 10h24m 7h32m Portal 2 8h45m 4h07m

If the game is good or great, it really makes no difference, this is like arguing about the size of the game on the disk, it won't tell you how much you will like playing through it!

Length has always mattered as it's a matter of value. Paying $60 for a 5-8 hour experience is a turn off for many people.

How can one not complain about a game like the order that has say 10 hours of solid single player gameplay for $60 but b*tch and moan about a game like Evolve that is also $60 and can offer unlimited replay-ability because of it's multiplayer aspect.

alabtrosMyster said: oh for the sake of the argument, here are some comparison points: Acording to How Long to Beat: Game Average Rushed Super Mario World 5h38m 2h51m Super Metroid 8h05m 4h22m Resident Evil 6h30m 4h47m Half-Life 12h04m 7h58m BioShock 12h21m 8h40m Silent Hill 2 8h08m 5h20m God of War 9h05m 6h ShadowoftheColossus9h33m 6h48m Metal Gear Solid 11h13m 8h24m Perfect Dark 10h37m 5h56m More recent games: Uncharted 8h54m 5h33m Vanquish 6h13m 4h23m Metal Gear Rising 6h37m 4h33m Bayonneta 2 9h24m 7h35m Infamous SS 10h24m 7h32m Portal 2 8h45m 4h07m If the game is good or great, it really makes no difference, this is like arguing about the size of the game on the disk, it won't tell you how much you will like playing through it!

Once again, the length is just the cherry on top of the complaint ice cream sundae.

theprof00 said: I just realized you're right. Lost Odyssey does take itself incredibly seriously.

"Incredibly seriously"

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x99P8j88Ds