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Tachikoma said:
dane007 said:

nope i just admired the packaging

yep, pop it back to the supplier for a full refund then, DDR4 may be more expensive but you pretty much require it for that cpu and board, sorry for not noticing sooner in the thread, kudos to OnlyForDisplay for the catch

 

No. Kudos to you for giving me a shootout to help Dane007!



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Tachikoma said:
dane007 said:

The shop owner is my best friend XD. Known her for years :).  Will swap it for a ddr4 one and pay the difference.

According to the qualified vendors list, that exact ram will work - 

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA2011/X99-A/X99_Series_DRAM_QVL_20150108.pdf

its important to note that the list states up to 4 DIMM (4 modules) are supported / qualified, but this does not mean that 8 will not work, it just means thats what they tested on the bios that was available at the time, bios updates generally assist ram compatibility frequently


Sweet thats awesome. Will save that list for future use :). You guys are a lifesaver



dane007 said:
Tachikoma said:

According to the qualified vendors list, that exact ram will work - 

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA2011/X99-A/X99_Series_DRAM_QVL_20150108.pdf

its important to note that the list states up to 4 DIMM (4 modules) are supported / qualified, but this does not mean that 8 will not work, it just means thats what they tested on the bios that was available at the time, bios updates generally assist ram compatibility frequently


Sweet thats awesome. Will save that list for future use :). You guys are a lifesaver

Just to note your particular board had a major ram support update with version 1004 of the bios, the bios is now at version 1203, download the 1203 bios and put it on a fat32 formatted memory stick, you can download it here : http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/X99A/HelpDesk_Download/

When you first boot up your newly built pc, enter the bios and leave it running for a few minutes without doing anything, just to be sure that it is running stable, then pop in the usb stick, navigate to the bios flasher and update the bios from the usb stick, reboot and then continue with your pc setup.

This is because sometimes if a pc is unstable it will lockup, even in the bios, and you do not want a lockup to happen half way through flashing a bios - modern motherboards like yours have protection against bad flashes, and will restore from a backup bios, but it never hurts to be cautious, good habbits learned and all that.

NOTE: after flashing your bios, the next bootup may seem unusually long, this isn't a problem with the pc or a sign of a bad flash, this is normal, its just the PC verifying a good flash, and updating its backup bios to match the new one - DO NOT turn off or interrupt the pc during its boot process directly after a flash!

Always best to configure everything AFTER a bios update rather than before, should mean that if in future you want to add additional ram, you shouldnt have any issues.

Oh and a last thing, your chosen CPU has been supported by the bios since version 0216, which was the initial release version, so you will not have any issues with cpu compatibility at all :)

Also, when installing your ram, do as the QVL document i linked to in an earlier post suggests:

 Install the modules into slots A1/B1/C1/D1 for better compatibility.



Tachikoma said:
dane007 said:


Sweet thats awesome. Will save that list for future use :). You guys are a lifesaver

Just to note your particular board had a major ram support update with version 1004 of the bios, the bios is now at version 1203, download the 1203 bios and put it on a fat32 formatted memory stick, you can download it here : http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/X99A/HelpDesk_Download/

When you first boot up your newly built pc, enter the bios and leave it running for a few minutes without doing anything, just to be sure that it is running stable, then pop in the usb stick, navigate to the bios flasher and update the bios from the usb stick, reboot and then continue with your pc setup.

This is because sometimes if a pc is unstable it will lockup, even in the bios, and you do not want a lockup to happen half way through flashing a bios - modern motherboards like yours have protection against bad flashes, and will restore from a backup bios, but it never hurts to be cautious, good habbits learned and all that.

NOTE: after flashing your bios, the next bootup may seem unusually long, this isn't a problem with the pc or a sign of a bad flash, this is normal, its just the PC verifying a good flash, and updating its backup bios to match the new one - DO NOT turn off or interrupt the pc during its boot process directly after a flash!

Always best to configure everything AFTER a bios update rather than before, should mean that if in future you want to add additional ram, you shouldnt have any issues.

Oh and a last thing, your chosen CPU has been supported by the bios since version 0216, which was the initial release version, so you will not have any issues with cpu compatibility at all :)

Also, when installing your ram, do as the QVL document i linked to in an earlier post suggests:

 Install the modules into slots A1/B1/C1/D1 for better compatibility.


Sweet thanks for the advice. Called my best friend and shes reserving one for tomorrow pickup and its only a 100 more  which is pretty good . So looks liek everythings is sorted for takeoff tomorrow :).  Thanks  will do :)



Just wondering why you're throwing away money. Regular 4790k + Z97 MB will save you enough to get a big enough SSD for all your games. With literally no hit to performance.

If you're not going SLI(and I know you won't) you can go with 600W or 550W power supply with high 80+ rating.



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vivster said:

Just wondering why you're throwing away money. Regular 4790k + Z97 MB will save you enough to get a big enough SSD for all your games. With literally no hit to performance.

If you're not going SLI(and I know you won't) you can go with 600W or 550W power supply with high 80+ rating.

Using an SSD for most games is a waste in itself



Tachikoma said:
vivster said:

Just wondering why you're throwing away money. Regular 4790k + Z97 MB will save you enough to get a big enough SSD for all your games. With literally no hit to performance.

If you're not going SLI(and I know you won't) you can go with 600W or 550W power supply with high 80+ rating.

Using an SSD for most games is a waste in itself

Using no SSD is a waste of time. Sorry, I want my games to run AND load fast. At least it's a noticeable effect unlike a 5930k over a 4790k which will net you nothing in performance.



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A high quality 650w should be fine even when overclocking. If you're planning SLI then as others have said, 750w should be ok. Nice rig btw.



vivster said:
Tachikoma said:

Using an SSD for most games is a waste in itself

Using no SSD is a waste of time. Sorry, I want my games to run AND load fast. At least it's a noticeable effect unlike a 5930k over a 4790k which will net you nothing in performance.

Nobody is telling him to use no SSD, Just that the few seconds you can save running from SSD in 90% of games isnt worth the stress of changing multiple components, and for the few that do benefit from ssd you can install those to an ssd anyway.

the sequential read/write of both types arent that different, especially in cases where games are loading large blocks of data from a single file, where SSD excells is handling parralel and multi-file access, where it obliterates mechanical.

If he has already bought the system (which he has), swapping the entire guts out just to have more ssd space doesnt seem logical at all, and If i were in his shoes, I would rather stick with the more modern platform then mess about swapping it out to save a few bucks and buy more ssd capacity.

Additionally, not even that far in to the future, new directx and OS's that leverage the additional memory bandwidth while fine tuning use of the cpu will play a bigger role in the overall system.

the 5xxx line along with DDR4 make a significant difference to the CPU's L1 cache speeds, too.



dane007 said:

Also have you guys used crucial Mx100 series SSD? If so are they good and worth getting

I have Crucial MX100 256GB. At the time I was buying (last December) it was one of the if not the best price/performance SSD in the market. Mine works great. I use sleep mode and I can start using my PC as soon as I wake it up. As for games I'm not sure if it's worth it, but if you buy 250 or more GB SSD you might as well install games on it since Windows and programs for an average user usually take up no more than 60GB.



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