Yeah, could luck with that... Infamous:SS, Driveclub, Knack, and Killzone:SF haven't come to ps+ even though they've been released ages ago, but sure somehow The Order will just cause. 

oh dang

Day one collectors edition for me.

what happened to the kimpossible profile pic? it was almost iconic for you.

Yes, but not at the release date. Will wait for a price drop because I'm not in a hurry to play that game.

Yes I'm buying it. Looks fun and I'm interested in the story.

Love how much effort people put into hating this game before its even released. Same people that line up to buy cod every year.

You don't know if the game is bad or not, neither does anyone else. So some people will buy it and find out. The rest of us will hear from those people about the game. No big deal.

So how is this gen so bad? People buying a game based on "hype" since nintendo started making games and consoles. How many people within a fanbase will buy a game because of it's name without knowing if the game will be bad or not? Zelda, halo, fallout, elder scrolls, cod, uncharted, mario kart, final fantasy and many more. The only reasons why people are giving this game so much crap is because it's a new IP and it's exclusive. 

Nope, said this several times but I'll say it again, bargain bin.

Exactly...its hard to know how the game will turn out, which is exactly why preordering sight unseen is ridiculous. Why not just wait until after it releases to actually hear more impressions and be able to create a more educated decision? These statements are largely about the destructive nature of "preorder culture" and the bullshit that surrounds it...seriously, pre orders are ridiculous.

Also, your last sentence is pure bullshit. There have been plenty of times plenty of people have cited plenty of issues they had with the game, none of which having anything to do with the fact that it is a new exclusive IP...

PS: So many people in this thread are complaining about the "hate" this game receives, without realizing how they are practically begging for more people to jump in and explain why exactly they dislike the game. Quit making silly statements like "Love how much effort people put into hating this game before its even released. Same people that line up to buy cod every year" and maybe people will stop feeling the need to explain how full of it some of the defenders of this game can be.

Knack was a huge success and quality wise it was better than all 3D Marios together, jokes aside Knack did sell well most Sony first party has I hope The Order is the first one to bomb but it will sell.