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Mikmster said:
jlmurph2 said:


Nope it wasn't a killer app, didn't even make top 20 (117k november 2007, 206k december 2007). You don't have to tell me to look at release dates. Assassins Creed had a way better launch on PS3 than Uncharted did.


yahh it was, it was the first must have on Ps3.  Either or even if you want to cry other wise or not matter not.

PS4 still lacks a game of such quality and sales.  Thats the point.


I don't think you understand that Uncharted did not launch as a system seller. It became one later on. I just gave you the npd launch numbers. They're not "must have" numbers.



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Not surprising. PS3 never sold under 200k in January in its first five years. It was such a beast that it ended in third place.



It's not just PS4, whole dedicated gaming Industry will have a different sales from the previous gen, the sales graphic will have a balance not high nor low and will keep stabilize for whole year except holiday or June.



This is the new market; jumps and jerks and unstable sales curves; this is the doing of consumer electronics in general.



jlmurph2 said:
Mikmster said:


yahh it was, it was the first must have on Ps3.  Either or even if you want to cry other wise or not matter not.

PS4 still lacks a game of such quality and sales.  Thats the point.


I don't think you understand that Uncharted did not launch as a system seller. It became one later on. I just gave you the npd launch numbers. They're not "must have" numbers.

Yes I remember that a lot of people were disappointed by the numbers of U1. 



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RolStoppable said:
zorg1000 said:
I saw something on Gaf showing that Wii, 360, PS2, PS3, DS, PSP each sold over 230k in January 2008.

The logical result for an industry that has narrowed down its target demographics. Percentages show that the PS4 and One combined are up gen over gen, but the trend is clearly negative (was up over 80% at one point, now we are down to below 60%). If we separate the two systems, then it's clear that the One doesn't account for much of this gen over gen advantage, plus the system needed very generous holiday offers in order to keep pace and apparently it's treading water again already.

In terms of software numbers, the shift to next gen happened incredibly fast despite hardly any good reasons to buy the new systems. With cross-gen games already commonly showing a 2:1 sales ratio in favor of the eighth gen during 2014, the pool of people that will be "forced" to upgrade once last gen versions get dropped by publishers isn't really that big. The software lineup of this industry lacks diversity and new IPs are usually derivative, so there's nothing on the horizon that implies significant long term growth. Last gen had online multiplayer really taking off with the likes of Call of Duty, but what's new this time around? Eventually the gen over gen numbers will be negative for the PS4 and Xbox One too, although the major players of the industry (the likes of EA, Activision and Ubisoft) should be fine with that because the decreasing number of retail games overall should help them to maintain, if not grow, their own software sales.


Bolded; not only that, but the 7th gen ushered in the HD era, HD TV's still weren't very common, even in the West, when the 360 and PS3 launched. Developers had to start making games in a different way, new language so to speak and production costs and time went up a great deal, this is also why I believe the 8th gen will be a lot shorter; it is merely a continuation of an already set standard and not the presentation of a new one. The One and PS4 have very few advantages over the PS3 and 360, while the PS3 and 360 had massive leaps in functionality and connecivity compared to PS2 and Xbox.

Between the Wii's super popular motion controls and the growth of online on consoles as well as non-gaming features; the 7th gen was the perfect one for lasting. Now we have the uninspiring tablet controller that tries to lure in iPad fans and two powerful machines that offer services you can install directly onto your smart TV or get to your mobile devices. The 8th gen will be a shorter one and the growth we saw in the 7th gen has been splintered and sprinkled across several market segments rather than remained in the home console sphere.
This is even more so for handhelds.

I guess what I'm saying is, to quote Bob Dylan: the times they are a'changin.



Roronaa_chan said:
And the Wii U sold less than Wii, XB1 sold less than 360, Vita sold less than PSP, 3DS sold less than DS...

And where is the point? :)



Probably because most people that wanted a PS4 bought it during the holidays, and there have been no real notable releases. RE HD and Dying Light are the only two that come to mind, and neither were gonna move consoles.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

PS4 is still full price, and I heard PS3 had a major price cut before its second January.

PS4 also doesn't have an exclusive as good and mainstream as Resistance: Fall Of Man and Uncharted: Drake's Fortune.



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