Because that doesn't follow the trend you are trying to use. I'm not even saying the PS4 will sell Wii numbers. If you are going to use the trend and state that Wii started its "high selling phase" 2 years into its cycle, then you have to apply the same trend and that PS4 will start its "high selling phase" 2 years into its cycle. You can't chop and change trends just to suit your current argument.

Now if you want to argue that gen 8 is going to be shorter because the PS4 is down yoy, it might happen but there'e no trend to suggest why and simply using the PS4 data is wroung. Sales from pricecuts from one console can offset the sales from another. We saw aggressive pricecuts from MS so naturally it will effect PS4/WiiU sales. So to make it fair you have to add up all the sales from current gen consoles over the holidays and January and compare them to the same 3 months last year. You will see that all 3 sold around 500k more than last year.

Now thats the fairest way to see if the market is still growing and it is. Like I said you can't pick specific trends to suit you. You need to pick trends that make sense.

Bottom line : PS4 beats Xbone in MS's home territory even having less offers and with a higher price.

Game Over...

Xbox fans will really suffer. Specially with Worldwide sales in front of their face.

Moderated - Leadified

so long, and thanks for all the fish.

I'm refering to what you said below in bold

I thought I made that clear. Nobody is doubting that the Wii outsold the PS4 or whatever that argument is.

Here you are using a trend, a trend that you state seeing stronger growth in the second year. And then you're then using PS4 yoy sales to claim that 1 month of data in one region confirms a shorter gen when the truth is that all 3 consoles over the last 3 months as sold more that the same period last year.

I simply saying stop twisting trends and use trends that make sense. Also you have to look deeper into the data. Where there games released? Price cuts? and also look at my previous post that talks about consumer buying habits changing. Every year we see a larger drop from Nov+Dec to Jan. Like sated in original that post I think it's down to stronger Black Fridays and the rise of online shopping that creates sales more front loaded over the 3 months.

It's not black and white, you have to also look into the grey patches.

So the week ending Jan 3rd isn't counted right?

PS4/X1 in need of new games and exclusive games, luckily they're arriving soon. I think its important to remember that outside of 1st party exclusives (non of which have been huge) theres been a severe lack of next gen exclusives. 95% of games last year were also on PS3/360. 2015 is the almost the reverse, lets see how that effects hardware sales. In the same time frame PS2 had Final Fantasy X, GTA3, tekken tag. Metal gear solid 2. All the biggest games of that year, none available on the previous gen of consoles.

PSVita selling 39% of 3DS numbers seems much bigger then anything we've seen on the weekly charts. At this point is anyone doubting they've already passed 10m?

The WII was cheaper than Ps4 and the cheapest console of the 7th gen. The Ps4 is the most expensive console of the 8th and still manage to be first. 

However, I am not sure but the WII had stock issues in january and it is not the case for the Ps4. 

Also Its save to say that PS4/X1 will never have a holiday line up as bad as last year?

Sonys key title was LBP3 and Microsofts was a collection of Remasters.

I guess games do sale consoles

in summary:
PS4 decrease is not major; price hasn't dropped; it's disappointing and bad for the industry, but We haven't seen price cut effect yet considering how "important" November and December was ;)
XB1 increase is insufficient, after $100-150 price cut it only managed 8k more sales, there is no momentum there.

Underrated post. VGC's formulas rarely account lack of new shipments.