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kowenicki said:


What!?  I dont follow that at all, I shall explain again.  I am comparing the same timespans in their lifetimes.

The Wii HASNT yet entered its US high selling point, so if we give the benefit of the doubt and say the same for the PS4 then I dont see how that changes anything. For example if the PS4 enters its high selling point next xmas then it will need to sell considerably more to match the Wii.

Over the next coming holiday period the wii sold (just in the US)

Nov 08: 2.04m

Dec 08: 2.15m

Jan 09: 680k

I dont understand how the comparison is unfair. Its perfectly fair and legitimate.

If the PS4 has already had its highest selling point then obviously it is even worse.

Whats the problem?

Because that doesn't follow the trend you are trying to use. I'm not even saying the PS4 will sell Wii numbers. If you are going to use the trend and state that Wii started its "high selling phase" 2 years into its cycle, then you have to apply the same trend and that PS4 will start its "high selling phase" 2 years into its cycle. You can't chop and change trends just to suit your current argument.

Now if you want to argue that gen 8 is going to be shorter because the PS4 is down yoy, it might happen but there'e no trend to suggest why and simply using the PS4 data is wroung. Sales from pricecuts from one console can offset the sales from another. We saw aggressive pricecuts from MS so naturally it will effect PS4/WiiU sales. So to make it fair you have to add up all the sales from current gen consoles over the holidays and January and compare them to the same 3 months last year. You will see that all 3 sold around 500k more than last year.

Now thats the fairest way to see if the market is still growing and it is. Like I said you can't pick specific trends to suit you. You need to pick trends that make sense.