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68soul said:
I just can't believe this thread even exists...

So, the best looking 3rd party GC game with improved Wii controls is a disappointment? RE4 is a bad game? I mean c'mon people, are you even sure you love videogames?

Even if survival/horror action isn't your cup of tea, you have to admit this is one of the best ever, and a game that desearves praise and respect... it's not that it's perfect, no game in the world is, but reading these comments just HURTS...

No, I don't have to admit those things.  If it deserved praise and respect, I would give it such.  It's too bad for you that it "HURTS" just because I think the horrible control scheme ruins any chance this game had of being good, but that's the way it is.



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Playing through RE4 on Wii at the moment - and I literally can't put it down. Finished the GC version of course, but the game is just so damned good...

I agree that the gfx are definitely "dated" - primarily the textures. If Capcom has better "source" textures, I wonder how hard it would have been just to upgrade some of them for the Wii version (heaps more RAM, etc..).

If anything, its now almost my favourite Wii title. Better than Zelda, better than Galaxy (almost). You just can't beat atmosphere and an awesome gameplay experience :)

PS - the controls IMO are "perfect". I have now mastered them completely, the game (on normal) is way too easy. If I was doing a similar title - I would completely rip them off!



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The controls of horror games tend to be deliberately clumsy to heighten the sense of desperation and helplessness. It's not a bug, it's a feature.

I can understand how some people find these controls hard to tolerate, especially when the typical PC FPS, for example, gives you more control then you could ever possibly have in real life (ie, firing rocket launchers while running sideways. Having any accuracy with any weapon while running in any direction, really).

Time to try Metroid Prime 3, IMO.



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famousringo said:
The controls of horror games tend to be deliberately clumsy to heighten the sense of desperation and helplessness. It's not a bug, it's a feature.

I can understand how some people find these controls hard to tolerate, especially when the typical PC FPS, for example, gives you more control then you could ever possibly have in real life (ie, firing rocket launchers while running sideways. Having any accuracy with any weapon while running in any direction, really).

Time to try Metroid Prime 3, IMO.

If they really made the controls clumsy on purpose, then that's absolutely retarded game design IMO.  If they want me to feel desperate, give me good controls and harder or more numerous enemies.  The controls are the absolute heart of the gameplay in any action game, and they should always be at the center of gameplay design.  You're supposed to feel connected to the main character, not hamstrung by a poor control setup.  There is nothing more annoying in a game than when you can't make your character do what you want him to do.

It's funny, I read "official" reviews of the original RE4 for PS2, and they're all raving about how awesome the controls are because the camera is now over your character's shoulder.  But I read the user reviews, and they say, yeah, the perspective is better than the fixed camera with prerendered backgrounds, but the controls are exactly the same, and just as bad.  In just about every review I've seen, they mention the "tank controls" by that phrase -- one even used the phrase "Cumbersome Tank Control(tm)".  This is obviously a long running notorious problem for the game series, which means that the developers have known that it was a problem since the first Resident Evil game.  There's just no excuse for it, IMO.



Re4 looked to realistic for me, so I stopped playing it. It actually frightened me.

I'm leaving this thread now. Good bye. Have a nice day!



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TheRealMafoo said:
sc94597 said:

Well its 480p so it would look alot better on a smaller screen. A 28 inch is the limit imo until it starts to look bad.


I have a few old TV's around here. I will pull one out of the closet and try it out. Another quick question. Is there a way to turn around quickly? I know the video said it was cumbersome, but they implied it could be done. Is there a key you hold down or something, or is it just by using the thumb stick on the nun-chuck?

 



Larger TVs should be fine, as long as they can do 480P native.  The problem is a lot of larger TVs are LCD or some other higher resolution with non analog scaling, thus creating terrible mixed sized pixels, for terrible jaggies, etc...

Controls are good, but not great.  You can't even move while shooting....



I have no problem with RE4's control and I love the game overall.

I play on a 32'' TV and I find the graphics very good considering the fact that the game first launched in 2005.



 

Entroper said:
IMO, the game looks pretty good, but it controls awfully. Because of what people said about how much the controls were improved over the PS2 version, I wasn't expecting this lame "tank controls" scheme. At least I know that I never EVER want to play the Gamecube or PS2 versions of this game.

You mean to tell me even Wii RE4 still has the "tank-like controls" scheme? i was never a fan of these controls even back in the PS days. Even Onimusha for the PS2 had these controls which was very disappointing.



ArtofAngels said:
Really? I thought RE4 looked and played great.

Are you using Component cords? RE4 blew me away on my Plasma.

Me too, I got a LCD 42 incher with components and the game is great.

 

I also thought the controls were absolutly amazing. They took a minute to get used too, but after that, it plays way better than it did on my Cube, imo. 



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TheRealMafoo said:
Sherlock99 said:
wow re4 on the wii is amazing i dont think the topic creator played the game just some lame attempt at trolling.

Thanks for your help. This comment add so much to the conversion... now if you were to look at my other threads, you would see I did just get a Wii, and have had nothing but good things to say about it.

 

Thanks for playing.


You should spend more time with the game, its one of the more universally loved games on this site, and the general concensus is the controls on the Wii make it even better than it was last gen.

 

I can't understand how anyone couldn't love it, lol. Have you played it much? 



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You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

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