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Landguy on 24 January 2015
thismeintiel said:
Landguy said:
So many absolutes being used here:
1. It's an absolute that sony announced it sold 18.5 million. - Probably true or accurate.
2. It's an absolute that AMD announced "nearly" 30 million. - Whatever nearly means
3. It's impossible for there only to be 500k consoles on the shelves. - I guess most people have no idea of stocking levels on Jan 1 at most retailers. Based on the reports, you couldn't find a PS4 in europe for 2 weeks after the holidays.
4. XB1 therefore is overtracked. - So, when we add fuzzy math of #2 and minus 1 we can only achieve #3?

And people here complain about the accuracy of the numbers on VGchartz?

Quite a bit of stretching in this post.  Are we really going to act like we don't know the meaning of nearly?  Really?  It means the exact same thing if they had said "almost 30M."  It's close to 30M, but not quite there.  No one EVER says nearly 30M if they mean its over 30M.

OK, lets say nearly =30 million.  So, Xb1 then is under tracked?  The problem isn't only the nearly 30 million number.  You ignored the rest of my post(common on these forums) to pick one part and complain about it or you accept the rest of my post as fact?  which way is it?



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walsufnir on 24 January 2015
IFireflyl said:
I guess I am confused why everybody cares so much about speculation? Is it not worth waiting until Microsoft releases their earnings report for Q2?


2 full days worth of speculation, showing colors, calling the site's numbers false... It's free jab time, why not use it?



DerNebel on 24 January 2015
Bofferbrauer said:
DerNebel said:

Taken from AMD financial report:

"Strong demand continued for AMD-based game consoles, with Microsoft and Sony having shipped nearly 30 million consoles to-date."

http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/press-release-2015jan20.aspx

Vgchartz has both at 29.5 million sold through at the same time, something doesn't add up.

I know they stated "to date" in their press release, but which date does it really mean? The day the press release came out (January 20) or the end of the 4. quartal (December 31)?

It would still mean at least one of the consoles is slightly overtracked, unless there where many consoles which got sent back and resold, counting twice in the sales statistics.

End of the quarter.



Ninsect on 24 January 2015
walsufnir said:
Wait - last gen people were arguing about PS numbers because Sony used combined numbers, now this gen it is the other way round? And some people _now_ complain but didn't before? Funny :)

What is your point? We are saying we can never be sure about XB1 numbers until MS tell us that. Same can be said for PS3 and PSV



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Ninsect on 24 January 2015
Landguy said:
thismeintiel said:
Landguy said:
So many absolutes being used here:
1. It's an absolute that sony announced it sold 18.5 million. - Probably true or accurate.
2. It's an absolute that AMD announced "nearly" 30 million. - Whatever nearly means
3. It's impossible for there only to be 500k consoles on the shelves. - I guess most people have no idea of stocking levels on Jan 1 at most retailers. Based on the reports, you couldn't find a PS4 in europe for 2 weeks after the holidays.
4. XB1 therefore is overtracked. - So, when we add fuzzy math of #2 and minus 1 we can only achieve #3?

And people here complain about the accuracy of the numbers on VGchartz?

Quite a bit of stretching in this post.  Are we really going to act like we don't know the meaning of nearly?  Really?  It means the exact same thing if they had said "almost 30M."  It's close to 30M, but not quite there.  No one EVER says nearly 30M if they mean its over 30M.

OK, lets say nearly =30 million.  So, Xb1 then is under tracked?  The problem isn't only the nearly 30 million number.  You ignored the rest of my post(common on these forums) to pick one part and complain about it or you accept the rest of my post as fact?  which way is it?

I'm sure almost 20m PS4s have been shipped, so "almost 30m" implies 10m or less for XB1...IF true



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IFireflyl on 24 January 2015

Bananas were counted in place of Xbox Ones. It was a sad day to all those who received a banana with a chip in it.



 

bananaking21 on 24 January 2015
IFireflyl said:
Bananas were counted in place of Xbox Ones. It was a sad day to all those who received a banana with a chip in it.

Dont you dare speak on the behalf my people



OttoniBastos on 24 January 2015

Assuming that AMD has the right data(which kind of make sense really)

-We have almost 30 million shipped(lets assume ~29,5)
-Lets assume that AMD is talking about all the consoles shipped until january 3rd/4th.
-We know that PS4 sold 18,5 which implies something between 19-20 million shipped.(assuming that PS4 wasn't Supplie constrainted WW)
-That means that,in the best case scenario,Xone shipped 10,5 million consoles until january 3rd/4th.
-Assuming that Xone wasn't supplie constrainted WW,that means Xone sold something between 9-10 million until january 3rd/4th.

Of course this is the best case scenario for Xone,assuming that PS4 shipped only 19 million consoles until january 3rd/4th.

The worse case scenario,though, is PS4 shipped closer to 20.That means Xone shipped ~9,5.Which,assuming that Xone wasn't supplie constrainted WW,means something between 8-9 million consoles sold.

Of course this is the WORST POSSIBLE scenario for xone.

Mixing the best case with the Worst,Xone definitely sold something between 8-10 million WW.

Xone is,at the best case scenario,overtracked by 1 million.
Worst case,3 million(lol no).



thismeintiel on 24 January 2015
walsufnir said:
Wait - last gen people were arguing about PS numbers because Sony used combined numbers, now this gen it is the other way round? And some people _now_ complain but didn't before? Funny :)

Just like those who mocked Sony for doing it last gen are completely fine with MS doing it, now.  Bias is funny, huh?



 

AlexJones on 24 January 2015
OttoniBastos said:
Assuming that AMD has the right data(which kind of make sense really)

-We have almost 30 million shipped(lets assume ~29,5)
-Lets assume that AMD is talking about all the consoles shipped until january 3rd/4th.
-We know that PS4 sold 18,5 which implies something between 19-20 million shipped.(assuming that PS4 wasn't Supplie constrainted WW)
-That means that,in the best case scenario,Xone shipped 10,5 million consoles until january 3rd/4th.
-Assuming that Xone wasn't supplie constrainted WW,that means Xone sold something between 9-10 million until january 3rd/4th.

Of course this is the best case scenario for Xone,assuming that PS4 shipped only 19 million consoles until january 3rd/4th.

The worse case scenario,though, is PS4 shipped closer to 20.That means Xone shipped ~9,5.Which,assuming that Xone wasn't supplie constrainted WW,means something between 8-9 million consoles sold.

Of course this is the WORST POSSIBLE scenario for xone.

Mixing the best case with the Worst,Xone definitely sold something between 8-10 million WW.

Xone is,at the best case scenario,overtracked by 1 million.
Worst case,3 million(lol no).

3 million overtrack would actually bring the US:ROW ratio down in line with my expectations, actually.

There is no way that US takes up only 60% of Xbone sales. No freaking way.