I wasn't referring to weapons because really that isn't all that important. If you only had one pistol in the entirty of the game it should make no difference as long as the game is of good quality and the gameplay is designed around it. 

It has the same quicktime events with action buttons followed by linear gameplay that looks to be more cinematic than game where you actually feel you have a choice and become a part of the game instead of just watching it go by. At first it seemed like it could have been a thinking persons game where you are out to track down some killer that is possibly super natural. Play the game your way, act as a sherlock holmes type character with steampunk. The original trailers left so much open and they have ended up making it a game of tunnel vision with little complexity. 

Even using that senseless definition of QTE it's still a lie. This is not a QTE fest. Nothing of what we've seen is a QTE fest, no matter how broad your definition of QTE is. It's straight up lies.

Blind defense isn't any better than blind criticism. Not saying that's necessarily what's going on, on either side, but using fanaticism to fight fanaticism does not give one the moral high ground.

I haven't seen anything yet, in this thread anyway, that I would qualify as ban worthy negativity. Nobody's spouting venomous hyperbole about how it'll be "teh wurst game eva" or anything like that. Unless I missed something.

you know a game is going to do badly when its anxious would-be fans are whipping themselves into an article-writing frenzy pleading breathlessly with everyone within earshot that, no, really, it's going to be innovative and good and stuff...

and they all just slip away without so much as a backward glance.

This is incredible. Just like on Gaf people are now redefining QTEs to justify the constant bashing of this game. I guess TLOU was a QTE fest too because it had just as many button prompts as this game. Why don't you all just shut up and wait for the game to come out instead of ingoring the people that have said it's great and focusing on the people who have 'concerns'. Thanks Christ the majority of PS4 fans don't bother with the internet.

When was the last time since a video game has caused as much devisive opinion between gamers as The Order? I don't think I have ever seen anything like this..

For once I agree with LudicrousSpeed.  The games problem is not innovation, it's the gameplay.

What the heck is with the hand pistol having ridiculous recoil spasm, while bullets seem to curve and hit the target anyway?  That's some innovation that would've been better left out.

This applies to all gamers. The image of millions of people so highly invested in forums talk is pathetic.

Console exclusives get unjustified hate in general, as the consoles itself. Gladfully the average customer doesn't care.

Yes you are right that there wasn't any ban worthy negativism but also there isn't blind support (just some people who likes the game even with things that are issues to others). Just saying in vgc the negative posts are less acepted than positive (mainly because the negatives lead to flaming and trolling sometimes). I actually would accept if both were accepted equally.