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maverick40 said:
So complete domination in every teritory with the only region Xbox one being close is the US?

Well done Sony, people on here were sure Xbox one would run away with the UK and USA.


Agreed. Europe Xbox One numbers by VGC are really questionable. Xbox One isnt winning US and UK let alone dominate. At the end of the day PS4 is leading with double install base. I can live with it.



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XO have sold 120,000 in BF week, and have more than double the sales... Let's say almost 300,000 for November. (270,000 to 280,000)
PS4 have lose first 2 week and even Black Friday. Maybe 250,000?
So, this Dec PS4 have sold for sure 20K more than One.



gubler2015 said:
Namiirei said:

MMw, the Xone is not even at 10M sold.
Or else Ms would already say it officially, i can't believe they won't say something big like "10 M XONE SOLD".

Really overtracked in the EU, 100% sure. And probably for the ROW too.


the xbox one is at 10m sold through as of 3th january even in the worst case szenario

 

xb1 is at 5m end of november usa
xb1 sold ~1.25m in november npd

december is 5 weeks and usual bigger than november
the absult lowest possible amount the xb1 will sell in december is 1m. and even selling more than 1.5m has a way higher chance to happen than below 1m

so us sales alone will be 6 - 6.5m
november uk sales were 1m mid november with one week left. xb1 sold 120k in the last week of november (mckv revaled numbers)
so 1.12m and still 5 weeks left. lets say 280k as minumun in uk and 380k as maximum
that result in 1.4 - 1.5m xb1 in uk

 

us + uk sales = 7.5 - 8m as of 3th january
last gen, us was just shy of 50% marketshare for the xb360
us + uk were just shy of 60% marketshare for the xb360

end of 2013, us + uk were just shy of 70% marketshare for xb1 (3.1m sold ww and ~2.15m us+uk)
and that was without the launch of tier 2 territories

 

if the xb1 sales in us+ uk will be only 7.5m (lowest possible) and the marketshare for both is 75% (highest possible) we are at 10m sold through
if the xb1 salres in us+ uk will be 8m and the marketshare for both countries is just 65%, we would be at over 12m sold through

 

if u want to know, why the marketshare for us+uk cant be 80%  as example, just do some math.
10m sold through would leave only 2m for all countries outside us and uk (that also inlcude canda, mainland europe, brazil, 45k from japan, china and australia / nz)
the outside of usa and uk sales for end of 2013, were at ~850k already. that would only leave 1.15m for the whole year in every other territory
if u go by just 9m sold through, its even more ridicolous. 7.2m usa + uk and only 1.8m all other (with over 800k sold in 2013 alone) so not even 1m xb1 sales the whole year in the whole world (without usa and uk)

Is that you prinz_valium?

 

Edit: Yup, I was right. lol  



To people comparing tightness of UK and USA.

During Jan-Oct in USA ps4:x1 was roughly 1.5 while on holidays it seems like x1:ps4 was 1.3 making in fact a 1M lead deflate to like 600k. Ms put aggressive deals and sony didn't answer in kind.

While I haven't picked the ratios for UK ps4 were some weeks ahead on getting to 1M sold, won all weeks in Jan-Oct and also won cumulative nov-dec. Ms and sony competed in bundles equally (by MS being less aggressive here than in usa and sony more). How can this differences lead to assume it is as tighter as USA?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

very interesting.
this is awesome for the ps4 in uk. then... i think... the ps4 console was in every country on the world the number 1 2014 of consoles, right ?



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kowenicki said:

No I dont.  Because thats what all the evidence we had at the time pointed to.

So shoot me.

You and many, many others also stated the ps4 was massively undertracked many times.  "Do you deny?"

This is silly.  We act on what data we have access to


what evidence? you mean your own assumptions? again we had no evidence  and you claimed the 7th week vicotry for xb1 based on your wishful thinking. no evidence what so ever showed that. 

i have nothing to do with what "many others" have to say. i said many times i assume PS4 is either undertracked or over tracked btw, and questioning these (VGC)  numbers is completely logical, considering that every time an official statement came out it was wrong. 

but lets not change the subject here, back to the UK numbers, you say we act on data we have access to, yet you completly pulled that 7 week win out of thin air, were did you get access to that data?



Well, there goes all the myth that UK is Xbox hunting ground lol.

Definitely with PS3 599$ and in UK it is generally more expensive they had bad time and only after the PS slim they were able to compete. This time I do not see any reason how Xbone will compete with PS4 though.



 

bananaking21 said:
kowenicki said:

No I dont.  Because thats what all the evidence we had at the time pointed to.

So shoot me.

You and many, many others also stated the ps4 was massively undertracked many times.  "Do you deny?"

This is silly.  We act on what data we have access to


what evidence? you mean your own assumptions? again we had no evidence  and you claimed the 7th week vicotry for xb1 based on your wishful thinking. no evidence what so ever showed that. 

i have nothing to do with what "many others" have to say. i said many times i assume PS4 is either undertracked or over tracked btw, and questioning these (VGC)  numbers is completely logical, considering that every time an official statement came out it was wrong. 

but lets not change the subject here, back to the UK numbers, you say we act on data we have access to, yet you completly pulled that 7 week win out of thin air, were did you get access to that data?


I'd like to echo bananaking. Furthermore what little evidence we had actually pointed to ps4 winning most weeks in December.  Turned out in was right.  Overall ps4  had a flawless 2014 in the UK.



Why is it that anytime Kowen is proven wrong he vanishes from the thread without accepting his limitations instead of blaming the data?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Expected before November, unexpected after. Greatest market in EU for most platforms, anyway.



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