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SubiyaCryolite on 26 December 2014
Samus Aran said:
o_O.Q said:
ff15 is on more powerful hardware so it pretty much wins every category

Great logic.

I guess Captain Toad is better than Skyrim in every category as well then. 

http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii/xenoblade-chronicles

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/final-fantasy-xiii

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/final-fantasy-xiv-online



I think you meant http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/final-fantasy-xiv-online-a-realm-reborn

I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

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Samus Aran on 26 December 2014
SubiyaCryolite said:
Samus Aran said:
o_O.Q said:
ff15 is on more powerful hardware so it pretty much wins every category

Great logic.

I guess Captain Toad is better than Skyrim in every category as well then. 

http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii/xenoblade-chronicles

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/final-fantasy-xiii

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/final-fantasy-xiv-online


I think you meant http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/final-fantasy-xiv-online-a-realm-reborn

So it would be ok to you if FF XV was a turd on release date as long as they fix it a year or so later?

This is why I don't trust Square Enix anymore. Get it right the first time! 



Clyde32 on 26 December 2014
outlawauron said:

He's an up and coming director. He's only directed 4 games (two as executive director), but he's had some success. Good for him in making some late career gains despite being in the industry for 20+ years.


He's always done good with what he does. Give him freedom and he'll do wonders.



Khane on 26 December 2014

Quite easy to see who has the agenda when reading this thread.

You guys should definitely not get involved with a certain someone here because he has proven time and time again that he is incapable of being objective, reasonable and fair.



Nem on 26 December 2014

I would just like everyone to play the games in both series before replying to the thread. There is no point in making this comparison when you arent familiar with one of the series.

VXIII said:
sc94597 said:
I do have to say after reading some post in this thread, I'm quite excited for both games. :) Hopefully this makes the genre popular again. JRPG's definitely seem to be moving forward.

And from the look of things, turn-based combat won't be a part of that future, at least for big budget games. Turn-base fans should get used to small RPGs from time to time.


As others have said, Persona 5. I dislike seeing this kind of talk regarding turn-based, like its some dirty stuff from the past. Pokemon uses turn based, hearthstone uses turn based. Turn based isnt a bad system or something that doesnt have a market like bravely default showed. Its just a variation of the JRPG version, just like the strategy grid ones. Some like it better, some like it worse, but it isnt outdated. 



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Samus Aran on 26 December 2014
Nem said:
I would just like everyone to play the games in both series before replying to the thread. There is no point in making this comparison when you arent familiar with one of the series.

It's not easy finding a copy of Xenoblade Chronicles though. 



Nem on 26 December 2014
Samus Aran said:
Nem said:
I would just like everyone to play the games in both series before replying to the thread. There is no point in making this comparison when you arent familiar with one of the series.

It's not easy finding a copy of Xenoblade Chronicles though. 


Theres always emulation and an upcoming 3DS version.



outlawauron on 26 December 2014
Samus Aran said:
outlawauron said:

I'm sorry Samus, you're just full of crap. I know I should have expected this when I replied to you, but you're either lying or just have no idea what you're talking about. FF14 is pretty much universally loved, has fantastic player feedback, and continues to grow.

Except FF XIV isn't universally loved. The JRPG of last generation was definitely Xenoblade Chronicles. 

It didn't even sell all that well according to VGCHARTZ (if the numbers are accurate). So how on earth is this universally loved? Or is FF really that small of a franchise? 

I have no doubt this game made SE a lot of money with the subscriptions, but that's irrelevant. 

FFXIII sold over 7 million copies according to VGCHARTZ while XIV only sold around 2 million in total. That's not all that impressive considering it released on 3 different platforms. 

I get that English isn't your first language, but it would really save you some time to read it through slower. Nothing in your post has anything to do with what I said. The amount of acclaim a game receives has very little to do with sales (and again, it has 2.5 million active players paying a sub, so obviously digital sales play a big part).

Near universally loved =/= selling millions and millions of copies.



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VXIII on 26 December 2014
Nem said:

I would just like everyone to play the games in both series before replying to the thread. There is no point in making this comparison when you arent familiar with one of the series.

 

As others have said, Persona 5. I dislike seeing this kind of talk regarding turn-based, like its some dirty stuff from the past. Pokemon uses turn based, hearthstone uses turn based. Turn based isnt a bad system or something that doesnt have a market like bravely default showed. Its just a variation of the JRPG version, just like the strategy grid ones. Some like it better, some like it worse, but it isnt outdated. 

No point either way, XV Is a major departure from the regular FF game, no one is familiar with it. Also, the developing team is different from any previous main FF. So the usual "I lost faith in SE/FF" or "judging from previous entries" doesn't apply here.

Turn-based is not bad, I was merely stating my observation on the market trend. Although I do believe that the myth that turn-based system is more strategic should put to rest. The Souls series beats any RPG I have played in the strategic depth. But yes, I kinda forgot about Pokemon and Dragon Quest. Persona on the other hand is not a big seller by any stretch.



Scoobes on 26 December 2014
VXIII said:
Nem said:

I would just like everyone to play the games in both series before replying to the thread. There is no point in making this comparison when you arent familiar with one of the series.

 

As others have said, Persona 5. I dislike seeing this kind of talk regarding turn-based, like its some dirty stuff from the past. Pokemon uses turn based, hearthstone uses turn based. Turn based isnt a bad system or something that doesnt have a market like bravely default showed. Its just a variation of the JRPG version, just like the strategy grid ones. Some like it better, some like it worse, but it isnt outdated. 

No point either way, XV Is a major departure from the regular FF game, no one is familiar with it. Also, the developing team is different from any previous main FF. So the usual "I lost faith in SE/FF" or "judging from previous entries" doesn't apply here.

Turn-based is not bad, I was merely stating my observation on the market trend. Although I do believe that the myth that turn-based system is more strategic should put to rest. The Souls series beats any RPG I have played in the strategic depth. But yes, I kinda forgot about Pokemon and Dragon Quest. Persona on the other hand is not a big seller by any stretch.

SE are still publishing the title though so they can force the team to introduce changes based on market research rather than artistic merit as happened in FFXII.




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