Cross platform games and/or cohesive OS's do not n necessarily spell a win for Nintendo though especially when we know nothing about the competition.
There are far too many variables and so little we know to boldly predict anything.
How will this play out? | |||
Sony will compete but MS will status quo | 98 | 24.02% | |
MS will compete but Sony will status quo | 21 | 5.15% | |
Both twins will compete | 152 | 37.25% | |
Nintendo won't be hindered. | 137 | 33.58% | |
Total: | 408 |
Cross platform games and/or cohesive OS's do not n necessarily spell a win for Nintendo though especially when we know nothing about the competition.
There are far too many variables and so little we know to boldly predict anything.
padib said:
Welp, they are already working on the software and the 3DS launched in early 2011. Considering a GBA-style lifespan (given worse sales for the 3DS in the west) and Nintendo's need for a new hardware platform due to staggering sales of the 3DS and U in the west, it's only logical. Also, if I remember the timeframe for the new business strategies announced at the same briefing (QoL, Unified API) were to come into motion within two years. |
Nintendo will launch their next handheld in the next two years. Their console won't launch before 2017.
DanneSandin said:
But how likely is it that Nintendo will wait until 2018 to launch new hardware? 3DS is down YOY, and will only decline further, Wii U isn't selling well at all, so what choice to they have? 2017 seems pretty reasonable to me. I agree that they should delay the launch for as long as possible, so that they have a comparable console to sonys and MSs, but considering their situation.... |
It's very likely, because that's when costs will start to become reasonable for them to produce their next home console, it's when the tech is at a mature production level, sooner than 2018 and it's expensive or they're stuck with last generation technology. It's not really a delay, because it's a 6 year gen, which is pretty much normal now. Launching in 2016 only gives them a 4 year generation, basically flipping the bird to the people that bought a Wii U.
As for 3DS we have New 3DS, which will likely launch early next year in the west, that prolongs the 3DS architecture until Nintendo launches their fusion system. Wii U will likely see growth next year, considering the games coming too it and we have no idea about the games that will come in 2016 onwards for that system. The situation is what Nintendo makes of it, they can certainly ride out the rest of the 8th gen for another 3-4years, then the demand will be there for their next system, it's certainly not there yet and Nintendo certainly hasn't tapped out what can be creatively done on the Wii U.
Burek said:
Adding 3DS sales just muddies the waters of WiiU's failure. 3DS is successful because it is a low-priced handheld for little kids and Japanese. Most of its sales are fueled by its low price and a handful of mega-successful franchises that would most likely struggle transpated onto a big screen. To think that people who bought into DS/3DS would be willing to spend upwards of $300 for the ability to play handheld games on a big screen is a bit naive. Majority of handheld users are little kids who don't have free access to the big screen, and whose parents will not spend extra money on it. A such proposed fusion console would probably fail as much as WiiU +/-10%. Nintendo just needs to continue supporting the portable market, as the big screen is increasingly more off limits to them, outside the few hardcore fans and kindergarteners... |
What are u even talking about? If the console is merely a console version of the next handheld why would it cost $300+? Look at Vita/Vita TV, the handheld is $199 with a game and memory card, the console version is $139 with a game, controller, and memory card. This is similar to what I'm talking about Nintendo doing, release a handheld then have a console version of it that is a bit more powerful in order to play games at a higher resolution on the TV. Either device could retail for $199. It depends on whether u prefer playing on a handheld or a console.
This allows Nintendo to save on R&D costs while being able to have stronger software output. So in theory if Nintendo is able to keep a majority of its handheld market next gen then this unified approach will sell 50-70 million. The sales from the console version is just icing on the cake, a device that brings in profits even if it only sells similar to Wii U.
I don't know at all how u think most of 3DS successful franchises wouldn't translate well to the big screen since outside of Pokemon pretty much all of 3DS' big sellers originated on consoles.
When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.
Normchacho said:
What is Nintendo's plan anyways? Try to prop up it's home consoles by attaching them to the handhelds? How many WiiU owners don't already have a 3DS? What do you think is holding back the WiiU? |
It's not about selling more home consoles, it's about merging the platforms in order to have a unified console and handheld. 2 devices with the same architecture, operating system, online infrastructure, similar specs that share a library. Combined Nintendo might be able to sell 70 million or so devices.
It's about maximizing software sales by not having games like Tropical Freeze, Mario Kart 8, 3D World suffer low sales because they are on a device with low install base. These games can all be 5-10 million sellers if they had the handheld side of the business to sell on as well.
What's he's saying is next gen there will be Playstation 5, Xbox 4 and Nintendo Fusion which is split up into 2 seperate devices similar to Vita/Vita TV.
When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.
DanneSandin said:
I don't know how you would describe the DS... That's two consoles that's evidence enough that Nintendo might hit it big next gen. But like I said, they need the 3rd parties; it's a lot safer a bet than trying to find the next Wii. |
I'm talking home consoles, they are a very different game. There is simply no reason to think that Nintendo will be able to just add the WiiU sales to the 3DS sales. How many WiiU owners don't have a 3DS? Why would people who decided against buying a Nintendo home console just hop on board because the 3DS was more popular...
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Nintendo's success won't affect Sony/MS that much. Nintendo's audience differs from Sony and Microsoft's. Unless this system manages to get all the 3rd party titles and manages to change Nintendo's reputation as a kids company I don't think they'll damage Sony and MS that much, even if it ends up being a huge success.
The amount of sheer ignorance in here's sort of baffling. It's really painfully obvious that some people have no shred of a clue what is being said, and blatantly ignore each and every point of insight offered to them. It's like saying 'I'm going on a vacation tomorrow', and having them answer 'so you're staying at home tomorrow then?'.
They're not getting what's being said at all.
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If this rumor get enough traction it will finally kill Wii U sales.
dd if = /dev/brain | tail -f | grep games | nc -lnvvp 80
Hey Listen!
padib said:
Why is it a hoax? |
Hmm, i edited it since I should have said Rumor not hoax.
dd if = /dev/brain | tail -f | grep games | nc -lnvvp 80
Hey Listen!