Will Sony and MS have the courage to compete with Nintendo in 2016?

[zorg1000]

Burek said:

zorg1000 said:

Normchacho said:
The WiiU is only selling to dedicated Nintendo fans, and parents buying them for their little kids. There is no evidence to suggest that this will change with a new console.

Don't get me wrong, Nintendo can certainly make a living selling to those groups. But they won't be "winning" a console generations like that.

Also, don't bring up Nintendo games as a reason that they'll be able to beat MS or Sony. They aren't, anybody who isn't buying a Nintendo console doesn't give a crap about Nintendo games. I would actually argue that Nintendo games are the reason they are doing so poorly. The rest of the business has moved on, and Nintendo has not.

Well when u add in 3DS sales, Nintendo will have sold about 60 million units of hardware so far this generation and lifetime could be 80 million or so. That's what this thread is about, Nintendo merging the handheld & console business by allowing either device to have access to the same library.

Adding 3DS sales just muddies the waters of WiiU's failure. 3DS is successful because it is a low-priced handheld for little kids and Japanese. Most of its sales are fueled by its low price and a handful of mega-successful franchises that would most likely struggle transpated onto a big screen.

To think that people who bought into DS/3DS would be willing to spend upwards of $300 for the ability to play handheld games on a big screen is a bit naive. Majority of handheld users are little kids who don't have free access to the big screen, and whose parents will not spend extra money on it.

A such proposed fusion console would probably fail as much as WiiU +/-10%. Nintendo just needs to continue supporting the portable market, as the big screen is increasingly more off limits to them, outside the few hardcore fans and kindergarteners...

What are u even talking about? If the console is merely a console version of the next handheld why would it cost $300+? Look at Vita/Vita TV, the handheld is $199 with a game and memory card, the console version is $139 with a game, controller, and memory card. This is similar to what I'm talking about Nintendo doing, release a handheld then have a console version of it that is a bit more powerful in order to play games at a higher resolution on the TV. Either device could retail for $199. It depends on whether u prefer playing on a handheld or a console.

This allows Nintendo to save on R&D costs while being able to have stronger software output. So in theory if Nintendo is able to keep a majority of its handheld market next gen then this unified approach will sell 50-70 million. The sales from the console version is just icing on the cake, a device that brings in profits even if it only sells similar to Wii U.

I don't know at all how u think most of 3DS successful franchises wouldn't translate well to the big screen since outside of Pokemon pretty much all of 3DS' big sellers originated on consoles.