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Dreamcast broke record numbers, as far as I can reacall. Even more than the N64, which was so sold out, that celebrities personally called Nintendo to order one.



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ps4tw said:
zippy said:
So according to VG chartz numbers, the Wii U has a good chance of passing the Dreamcast next week, then we can put tne whole Dreamcast thing to bed.


Wat? The Wii U has sold considerably slower than the Dreamcast. That was my whole point. The Dreamcast sold better than the Wii U and was still discontinued yet Nintendo are still supporting the Wii U which has been annihilated by the competition. Nintendo haven't a clue as to what they are doing. 


That is still wrong.

 

Sega sold old stock for years. They just stopped production in 2001. And DC was sold with really heavy discounts. Especially in europe DC started selling 'well' after it was discontinued and after those heavy pricecuts. You could get a Dreamcast for 149 Deutsche Mark (about 75€) back then. Sometimes even less. So those 10,6 million Dremcasts weren't sold in that short timeframe.

Wikipedia actually says, that finally stock was cleared for prices between 49-79$ in the US. Don't know that for sure.

 

That together with all the heavy cuts Sega had taken before makes Dreamcast hardly comparable at all and 'DC sold faster' somewhat a fairy tale.

 

DC sold more than VGC says, but that is with heavy price cuts long after it was discontinued. So, Wii U still has to manage Dreamcast levels, but it will, at full price.

 

Only time, DC ever sold good sadly was right at launch.



Miyamotoo said:
ps4tw said:
zippy said:
So according to VG chartz numbers, the Wii U has a good chance of passing the Dreamcast next week, then we can put tne whole Dreamcast thing to bed.


Wat? The Wii U has sold considerably slower than the Dreamcast. That was my whole point. The Dreamcast sold better than the Wii U and was still discontinued yet Nintendo are still supporting the Wii U which has been annihilated by the competition. Nintendo haven't a clue as to what they are doing. 

Keeping their user base happy and some time trying to make profit (look last quarter report and this holiday one)!?

Keeping an ever reducing user base happy. Wow. They really don't know what they are doing. They haven't done a damned thing to get in new core gamers since the Gamecube and they are now paying the price dearly. 



ps4tw said:
Miyamotoo said:
ps4tw said:
zippy said:
So according to VG chartz numbers, the Wii U has a good chance of passing the Dreamcast next week, then we can put tne whole Dreamcast thing to bed.


Wat? The Wii U has sold considerably slower than the Dreamcast. That was my whole point. The Dreamcast sold better than the Wii U and was still discontinued yet Nintendo are still supporting the Wii U which has been annihilated by the competition. Nintendo haven't a clue as to what they are doing. 

Keeping their user base happy and some time trying to make profit (look last quarter report and this holiday one)!?

Keeping an ever reducing user base happy. Wow. They really don't know what they are doing. They haven't done a damned thing to get in new core gamers since the Gamecube and they are now paying the price dearly. 


Umm, the Wii-U's user base is growing. Slowly but growing. Growing is not reducing.



ps4tw said:
Miyamotoo said:
ps4tw said:
zippy said:
So according to VG chartz numbers, the Wii U has a good chance of passing the Dreamcast next week, then we can put tne whole Dreamcast thing to bed.


Wat? The Wii U has sold considerably slower than the Dreamcast. That was my whole point. The Dreamcast sold better than the Wii U and was still discontinued yet Nintendo are still supporting the Wii U which has been annihilated by the competition. Nintendo haven't a clue as to what they are doing. 

Keeping their user base happy and some time trying to make profit (look last quarter report and this holiday one)!?

Keeping an ever reducing user base happy. Wow. They really don't know what they are doing. They haven't done a damned thing to get in new core gamers since the Gamecube and they are now paying the price dearly. 

Of Course they keep their user base and fans happy, they certainly want leave them like Sega,
they care about users and fans and that is good thing not bad.
Because of their support Wii U have very good exclusives and Wii U owners are happy and Nintendo can steel make profit, it is win-win situation.



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Twilord said:
ps4tw said:

Keeping an ever reducing user base happy. Wow. They really don't know what they are doing. They haven't done a damned thing to get in new core gamers since the Gamecube and they are now paying the price dearly. 


Umm, the Wii-U's user base is growing. Slowly but growing. Growing is not reducing.

I was referring to the userbase of Nintendo between generations, not the Wii U. 



ps4tw said:
Miyamotoo said:
ps4tw said:
zippy said:
So according to VG chartz numbers, the Wii U has a good chance of passing the Dreamcast next week, then we can put tne whole Dreamcast thing to bed.


Wat? The Wii U has sold considerably slower than the Dreamcast. That was my whole point. The Dreamcast sold better than the Wii U and was still discontinued yet Nintendo are still supporting the Wii U which has been annihilated by the competition. Nintendo haven't a clue as to what they are doing. 

Keeping their user base happy and some time trying to make profit (look last quarter report and this holiday one)!?

Keeping an ever reducing user base happy. Wow. They really don't know what they are doing. They haven't done a damned thing to get in new core gamers since the Gamecube and they are now paying the price dearly. 

And what else can they do? They have already stated that they are not happy with sales of the consoles, something you mentioned. They don't want to give it too much support because, come on, it's a flop, but they must keep their user base to prevent disasters in future generations and, overall, because they don't want suffer what SEGA suffered in the past. 



My bet with The_Liquid_Laser: I think the Switch won't surpass the PS2 as the best selling system of all time. If it does, I'll play a game of a list that The_Liquid_Laser will provide, I will have to play it for 50 hours or complete it, whatever comes first. 

Wii U IS a success. Nintendo is able to make profit from it and that profit is going to skyrocket thanks to Amiibos.

At the end of wave 3 they will have sold Amiibos worth more than a second Wii U to me...



Metallox said:
ps4tw said:
Miyamotoo said:
ps4tw said:
zippy said:
So according to VG chartz numbers, the Wii U has a good chance of passing the Dreamcast next week, then we can put tne whole Dreamcast thing to bed.


Wat? The Wii U has sold considerably slower than the Dreamcast. That was my whole point. The Dreamcast sold better than the Wii U and was still discontinued yet Nintendo are still supporting the Wii U which has been annihilated by the competition. Nintendo haven't a clue as to what they are doing. 

Keeping their user base happy and some time trying to make profit (look last quarter report and this holiday one)!?

Keeping an ever reducing user base happy. Wow. They really don't know what they are doing. They haven't done a damned thing to get in new core gamers since the Gamecube and they are now paying the price dearly. 

And what else can they do? They have already stated that they are not happy with sales of the consoles, something you mentioned. They don't want to give it too much support because, come on, it's a flop, but they must keep their user base to prevent disasters in future generations and, overall, because they don't want suffer what SEGA suffered in the past. 

Nintendo have more revenue from hardware than software.

Nintendo have more revenue from handheld than home console (except for during the Wii).

"Royalties & content income" have never been a major source of revenue. 

Nintendo built a new R&D-building next to their Kyoto-headquarters. The construction of the facility costs about 200.000.000 $ (this is also something that disturbed their profitability in the last years)

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=740455



spurgeonryan said:
Why is this thread still a thing? It passed the Dreamcast last week. Any other convo should be in a separate thread.


Because that was never the point. The point was that it's sales have been slower than the Dreamcast, and yet the Sega called it quits long before. As a side note, the DC sold over 10 million, VGChartz screwed up on that one.