Dont feel bad, i was called biased for predicting 9m minumum and 10m maximum for WiiU.  Supposedly that person thought it would sell 11.3m and XBO 8.3m(if i remember that correctly).  My predictin for XBO was 9.3m minumum and 10.3m maximum which also looks like its going to be wrong, but i dont think it was biased either since i under-estimated XBO and over-estimatedWiiU lol

Nintendo are on crack.

The only logic is that they wanted to recoup all software revenue from that game at full value, but thats very short term think IMO

if you consider the likely real numbers for the Wii U and not the over tracked numbers on here what does it look like it will hit by years end? November was a terrible month for it sales wise. Japan depsite SMash didn't sell much and in the US it was shocking even with BF. I don't know about the EU except it bombed in UK and did better than expected in France...

Actually, the point I was making wasn't "you couldn't do it", but "it's hard to do for anybody". Even if it pales in comparison to the competition, it's still an exceptionally solid result. To spin "we've increased our sales" into a negative, on the other hand, is at best disingenuous, and more likely to be trolling or flamebaiting.

Eh not really. We're talking about a billion $ global company here, you need to put things in perspective.

The figures are not good considering it has Smash and Mario Kart this year, most people thought it would shift 300k/400k.

They're not all that bad, and while Smash is something you'd hope would drive sales, it's like most of Nintendo's games - long-tailed sellers. People seem to be expecting Nintendo's games to show sales patterns similar to those of the other systems, where sales are generally high for a week or two, before disappearing entirely.

And like I said, sales even at the pace the Wii U is achieving isn't trivial at all to achieve. Sales when it was around 10k a week in the US were dismal. Of the order of 150-200k in one week in the US isn't, however.

Because it's the holiday ... everything sells better in the holidays, even the Vita got the same % increase.

And we're not talking hardware are we. Mario Kart has hardly helped hardware this fall has it? Noone is doubting that the titles themselves have legs but they're doing very little for hardware outside of launch period.

Why didnt you have the same mentality back in the 7th gen??