Not hard to get a good framerate for Zelda when the game looks like a mid-gen PS3 game.

oh, is that why ps4/x1 games have such terible frame rates? because they're just so next gen? haha. judging by your avatar, what youre willing to accept/your standards are sparkling clear.

Found something interesting.
http://n4g.com/news/clickout/1635457
All texture is hand made without source material. So we may avoid saying that going for realism is cheap as you use 0 imagination and creativity. Best part is that UC uses detailed and rich background+ enviroment and a somewhat cartoony drake, there wasn't much of photorealism. But I can understand people confusion torwards this level of presentation.

Lol framerates are more dependent on the graphics of a game than on hardware. A game like Zelda U could run at a locked 120fps easily on PS4.

As for my avatar, I updated it in October, when the game didn't even release. Of course its framerates are unacceptably low.

Source? Most people are concerned with how realistic a game is over its resolution, I think the PS4's power will go into more polys and 'better' graphics than putting more Ps on the screen. I think Zelda is more likely to hit the key benchmarks than Uncharted. Certainly in terms of framerate (which <b>IMO</b> is a more important measure); as Nintendo's primary concern when it comes to its games is to get a good, stable framerate.

And BTW, I'm getting both these games as they both look fantastic. I'm excited to play my first Uncharted.

PS4 exclusives run at 1080p30fps, even hen they loo as good as Driveclub, so I won't be surprised if Uncharted 4 did that.

Also if you have a PS3 I suggest you to buy Uncharted 1, 2 and 3 to understand the story and get a taste of the awesome gameplay.

I thought most exclusives were at 720? Either way, I'm standing by Zelda having the more stable framerate.

PS4 is my first Playstation. I'm hoping for a remaster trilogy, they look like the sort of dumb fun game I can play without too much thought.

On ps3 most exclusives were sub720p with stable 30fps. On Ps4 all so far are 1080p30fps. Some like KZ display for MP 1080p60fps but using techniques that render about half the pixels and predict the other part based on previous frames (almost 1080i in a summarized way).

Again this type of thread... PS4 is more powerfull hence can push more polys, effects, shaders etc... judging by past Naughty Dog work, it's easy that from a tech point of view it will be way ahead that whatever Nintendo can produce with the WiiU.
From an artistic point of view despite being more realistic, Uncharted4 seems to be very well designed too, so it's not a stretch to anticipate U4 as best visuals for 2015.
However will this make all other games look bad?
Pretty sure Zelda will have amazing visuals that will do what they are expected to do: amaze & immerse you in a wonderful fantasy Hyrule.
Pretty sure that BOTH will be contenders to best visuals for 2015!

Seriously?

Are you comapring that generic snorefest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJHq3FXI0C0

with that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iroLzZsbNB8

On animation quality alone U4 smashes The Order! The Order Characters look like Playmobile/empty boxes moving!!!