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"throws hand up in air" I cannot believe how he could say such a thing!! If he doesn't immediately come up and call the ps4 a god machine that dwarfs the xbox one I'm going to get really upset!

Seriously, a lot of devs have come out and made similar comments. Whats the point in getting upset over and over again by them and repeatedly mentioning parity?



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binary solo said:
phaedruss said:
binary solo said:
phaedruss said:


I'm sorry but the visuals of mk8 and ssbu are vastly over stated.

That's not the point though. The point is Wii U has enough power to makes decent enough looking games. And that's true.


Yea if ps3 level is decent enough then sure.

You know that's not true.


It is true.



The only thing that matters is this. Almost all games run with better graphics or better FPS on PS4 compared to XBONE
http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Native_Resolutions_and_Framerates



celador said:
starcraft said:

OT: I wish people that actually worked on consoles would stop offering commentary. These forums are a lot more fun when its 90% wish and a prayer and 10% logic-based contemplation rather than the other way around.

Yeah that's right.  It is on a wish and a prayer that people say that PS4 is more powerful.

Ok

I think you misunderstood me

I was just commenting on the fact that the first two posts in this thread indicated the developer (who has worked on both consoles) is a liar - without providing any credentials of their own. Unfortunately, such behaviour has become par over the last few months.

My opinion is tha the PS4 has a power differential that amounts to a marginal performance advantage when applied in the real world, and I take that as a given.



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starcraft said:
celador said:
starcraft said:

OT: I wish people that actually worked on consoles would stop offering commentary. These forums are a lot more fun when its 90% wish and a prayer and 10% logic-based contemplation rather than the other way around.

Yeah that's right.  It is on a wish and a prayer that people say that PS4 is more powerful.

Ok

I think you misunderstood me

I was just commenting on the fact that the first two posts in this thread indicated the developer (who has worked on both consoles) is a liar - without providing any credentials of their own. Unfortunately, such behaviour has become par over the last few months.

My opinion is tha the PS4 has a power differential that amounts to a marginal performance advantage when applied in the real world, and I take that as a given.

Well, the fact is he is a liar.  Granted he is only doing it to either not piss off XBO fans, so they will also buy his game, or just so people will click the article and find out more about his game.  Either way, we have the cold hard facts in the specs.  The PS4 is quite a bit more powerful than the XBO, ~1.4x as much when looking at just the GPU.  Of course, we'll see the true potential in a year or two, when the PS4 leaves the XBO in its dust graphics-wise.

And personally, I always find it quite amusing that those who latch onto this "PS4 is barely more powerful" BS, love to take the word of multiplat indie devs whose games barely use the power of either system, but ignore the real world results when it comes to 1st and 3rd party games.



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thismeintiel said:
starcraft said:

I think you misunderstood me

I was just commenting on the fact that the first two posts in this thread indicated the developer (who has worked on both consoles) is a liar - without providing any credentials of their own. Unfortunately, such behaviour has become par over the last few months.

My opinion is tha the PS4 has a power differential that amounts to a marginal performance advantage when applied in the real world, and I take that as a given.

Well, the fact is he is a liar.  Granted he is only doing it to either not piss off XBO fans, so they will also buy his game, or just so people will click the article and find out more about his game.  Either way, we have the cold hard facts in the specs.  The PS4 is quite a bit more powerful than the XBO, ~1.4x as much when looking at just the GPU.  Of course, we'll see the true potential in a year or two, when the PS4 leaves the XBO in its dust graphics-wise.

And personally, I always find it quite amusing that those who latch onto this "PS4 is barely more powerful" BS, love to take the word of multiplat indie devs whose games barely use the power of either system, but ignore the real world results when it comes to 1st and 3rd party games.

I think you're minsunderstanding the concept of a real world differential.

Going from 720p to 1080p (so, larger than the actual difference of most games) involves doubling the amount of pixels on a screen. In reality, this will only be noticed if you sit two decent-quality screens next too each other and run the same scene with the same settings.

Add in that most titles run at 900p or higher on the Xbox One, and the real world significance of your 'dust' doesn't taste so bad



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phaedruss said:
Umm no. Ps4 is more powerful in every way.

Nope. We all know X1 has a stronger CPU. It isn't used for most games. As I recently read a review for the PC-version of AC:Unity - yes this game strains multiple CPU-cores on a modern CPU. That explains the issues it had on PS4, although it was only marginally better on X1. Anyways, a statement that PS4 is more powerful in every area is obviously wrong.



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phaedruss said:
Yea if ps3 level is decent enough then sure.

Well, do you think all PS3-games look like shit?



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Souns about right to me. There's hardly any difference in multiplats.



*Sound Of Rain said:
TheJimbo1234 said:

No, they really are not. ANd with VR around the corner, this will be a huge problem for them.

I just played Super Smash Bros last night.

it looked great to me


And what is your point of reference? Take a ps1 back to 1990 and it wouls look great. Now it looks pants. The WiiU looks anything but good when I compared it to my PC, and spec wise, all the consoles are poor.

The industry really needs to have some baseline eg. what the best gpu can do relative to price. 

 

 

Mnementh said:
phaedruss said:
Umm no. Ps4 is more powerful in every way.

Nope. We all know X1 has a stronger CPU. It isn't used for most games. As I recently read a review for the PC-version of AC:Unity - yes this game strains multiple CPU-cores on a modern CPU. That explains the issues it had on PS4, although it was only marginally better on X1. Anyways, a statement that PS4 is more powerful in every area is obviously wrong.

0.15 GHz will do nothing to performance. Trust me on that. Anyone familair with overclocking will know this. Also we don't know about memory controllers and other major components to see if that clock increase actually helps.
AC:U will run better due to optimisation/being built for the lower spec console and ported across. This would make more sense seeing just how badly made the game was.