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Where do you see the baseline?

30-40k 26 15.12%
 
41-50k 8 4.65%
 
51-60k 17 9.88%
 
61-70k 35 20.35%
 
71-80k 24 13.95%
 
81-90k 29 16.86%
 
91-100k 11 6.40%
 
101-110k 5 2.91%
 
111-120k 2 1.16%
 
Over 120k 15 8.72%
 
Total:172

with a strong US,should be around 100k or just over,you'd think MS will keep XOne ultra competitive in the US/UK markets from now on



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Robbie2010 said:
teigaga said:
tak13 said:
Can you tell me what releases xbone has for 2015?70K-80(we saw it selling one week 70k in September and other one week 80k in October)Inform me for its game releases,to decide if i will reduce it!

At the moment is this what the first half of the year is looking like.

Dying light (next gen exclusive)
Wicther 3 (next gen exclusive)
Evolve (next gen exclusive)
Battlefield Hardline 
Fable Legends (X1 exclusive)
Arkham Knight (next gen exclusive)

Hardware sales are not going to sit idle because devs in 2015 have now quit the PS3 and 360. people have to take that into account when presuming a baseline.


What does next gen exclusive mean?


Not available on PS3/360.

Essentially if you want to play new games in 2015, you have to get a new console. This is traditionally the driving force behind console sales- not slighter better versions of games you already have access to. I think this will reflect a lot in 2015 console sales. Everything will up YOY quite significantly. January will be the only excemption. 



teigaga said:
tak13 said:
Can you tell me what releases xbone has for 2015?70K-80(we saw it selling one week 70k in September and other one week 80k in October)Inform me for its game releases,to decide if i will reduce it!

At the moment is this what the first half of the year is looking like.

Dying light (next gen exclusive)
Wicther 3 (next gen exclusive)
Evolve (next gen exclusive)
Battlefield Hardline 
Fable Legends (X1 exclusive)
Arkham Knight (next gen exclusive)

Hardware sales are not going to sit idle because devs in 2015 have now quit the PS3 and 360. people have to take that into account when presuming a baseline.

So a good few games in feb and one game in june. What about the other 4 months? whats suposed to improve the x1 above 50k in the other 4 moonth dry spell? And whos to say theres anything right after E3, wich I donth there is anything untill the hollidays for the x1. While all the whiyle sony will be pumping at least 3 more games evenly spread out. So im seeing 2 good months then at least 6 months with nothing and the x1 droping below 50k, even 40k.



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teigaga said:
OfficerRaichu15 said:
teigaga said:
lol, who are the nutters who put 30-40k? Simply not happening. 40k is gonna be North America alone, and thats still quite conservative IMO.

No one is expecting it to crash and burn in the US or UK but everwhere else worldwide

it will go down in flames especially with a lack of major exlcuisves and new bundles(which won't help much like the price cut and titanfall bundle outside of US and UK).

I don't see the relevance? My point is US and Uk alone secure it 40k

Also people put too much emphasis on exclusives, big games sell systems and there are quite a few next Q1- X1 is not dropping back to 40k for the foreseable future. 

Without any gammes they will not secure 40k in the us and uk. And we are looking at at least 6 moths of barren releases from either third partys and specially first party, while sony will have only like 2-3 months without releases.



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Im thinking around 85k. EU numbers will drop hard but its US will keep it from reaching pre pricedrop levels. That could all change depending on whether sony makes a pricecut



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If the price goes back up then I think sales will drop like a stone early next year (according Microsoft this is a temporary price drop, not a permanent one), 40K maximum in that case and that's why I voted 30-40K. If the price stays the same as it is now then maybe 60K because there's very little reason to get an XB1 when PS4 will be getting a huge slew of exclusives throughout the year, multiplats are favored on PS4 and I think that's going to have a huge effect on where people decide to spend their money next year.

People know that the XB1 will drop in price again sooner rather than later, so why should they get the system in baseline weeks when they can wait until it drops in price again? Master Chief, FH2 and Sunset Overdrive have spiked the numbers for now, but only Sunset Overdrive is a true exclusive to the platform and there's doubt as to whether it will stay an exclusives after it's been insisted that DR3 and Ryse would only be on XB1. The games dropping on the platform in the 1st half of next year that aren't coming to PS4 are available elsewhere. There's very little that will keep momentum up after the holidays to make people jump on board with the XB1.

I wouldn't be shocked if 40K was where the baseline will be even if the price stays as it is now on weeks when no new games are releasing, people will most likely wait.



eva01beserk said:
teigaga said:
tak13 said:
Can you tell me what releases xbone has for 2015?70K-80(we saw it selling one week 70k in September and other one week 80k in October)Inform me for its game releases,to decide if i will reduce it!

At the moment is this what the first half of the year is looking like.

Dying light (next gen exclusive)
Wicther 3 (next gen exclusive)
Evolve (next gen exclusive)
Battlefield Hardline 
Fable Legends (X1 exclusive)
Arkham Knight (next gen exclusive)

Hardware sales are not going to sit idle because devs in 2015 have now quit the PS3 and 360. people have to take that into account when presuming a baseline.

So a good few games in feb and one game in june. What about the other 4 months? whats suposed to improve the x1 above 50k in the other 4 moonth dry spell? And whos to say theres anything right after E3, wich I donth there is anything untill the hollidays for the x1. While all the whiyle sony will be pumping at least 3 more games evenly spread out. So im seeing 2 good months then at least 6 months with nothing and the x1 droping below 50k, even 40k.

Momentum. Its the same reason Wii U still hasn't dropped to pre MK8 levels. Its the same reason PS4 went without major release in between march and june yet still sustained a very strong baseline. The Xbox is in a superior position to what it was in the summer, Year 2 sales are always higher- theres no reason to think Xbox is in risk of falling off the map with sub 50k sales. 

Jan: Dying Light+ post holiday momentum.

Feb: WItcher 3/Evolve- 2 potentially huge release, both likely to be pushed by MS based on previous E3's. The biggest releases of that month and none are available on 360/PS3. That will push hardware no doubt

March: Battlefield Hardline- obviously a big release

Q2 is quite an unknown quantity but is looking like it will Arkham Dark Knight, Fable Legends, Mortal Kombat X. Obviously theres only so much we can know this far in advance but its looking strong.  




It depends on if MS go back to the 399 pricing or not in January. They have no games for the first 6-9 months of 2015 so they're gonna need that 349 very badly.



Ka-pi96 said:

I expect 1 million

Is that daily or hourly?



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teigaga said:
eva01beserk said:
teigaga said:

At the moment is this what the first half of the year is looking like.

Dying light (next gen exclusive)
Wicther 3 (next gen exclusive)
Evolve (next gen exclusive)
Battlefield Hardline 
Fable Legends (X1 exclusive)
Arkham Knight (next gen exclusive)

Hardware sales are not going to sit idle because devs in 2015 have now quit the PS3 and 360. people have to take that into account when presuming a baseline.

So a good few games in feb and one game in june. What about the other 4 months? whats suposed to improve the x1 above 50k in the other 4 moonth dry spell? And whos to say theres anything right after E3, wich I donth there is anything untill the hollidays for the x1. While all the whiyle sony will be pumping at least 3 more games evenly spread out. So im seeing 2 good months then at least 6 months with nothing and the x1 droping below 50k, even 40k.

Momentum. Its the same reason Wii U still hasn't dropped to pre MK8 levels. Its the same reason PS4 went without major release in between march and june yet still sustained a very strong baseline. The Xbox is in a superior position to what it was in the summer, Year 2 sales are always higher- theres no reason to think Xbox is in risk of falling off the map with sub 50k sales. 

Jan: Dying Light+ post holiday momentum.

Feb: WItcher 3/Evolve- 2 potentially huge release, both likely to be pushed by MS based on previous E3's. The biggest releases of that month and none are available on 360/PS3. That will push hardware no doubt

March: Battlefield Hardline- obviously a big release

Q2 is quite an unknown quantity but is looking like it will Arkham Dark Knight, Fable Legends, Mortal Kombat X. Obviously theres only so much we can know this far in advance but its looking strong.  


Momentum is achived when a company like sony or nintendo did, they did something good lie release the supirior console or some good games, and have something good or better coming like more exclusive games, pricecut, adquisitions, new product and more. MS has no momentum, they are riding on a desperate temporary pricecut, new releases all pushhed for the same month, bundle games and holliday boost. Most those things end this very month and jsut the pricecut is left untill dec. As soon as jan is here they hae zero momentum, and coming foward they offer nothing that its not available on a supririor console like the ps4, the price will go up, no exclusive games, while the competition will be fightinhard and release new exclusives, amibos, possible pricecut and more.

So no, the x1 has no momentum, just a temporary spike like its had before, just that this time it will last a litle longer and like before it will completlty banish as soon as whats beiing ofered stops.



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