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Ninsect said:
ioi said:
Ninsect said:
Well MS did announce 7.4m or so shipped as of the end of Sept. I believe the shipped vs. sold gap was 1.7-1.8m here. @ioi: Do you believe they had so many on shelves back then (and more now)?

Same question for PS4, where the gap was even bigger (2.1m+) and yet PS4 got adjusted...not up, but down!


Yes, 2m+ on shelves isn't unusual at this time of year for platforms that will be doing 500k - 1m per week over the holidays.

At the end of September though? The holidays are almost two months away at that point

yeah... but usually October is already a month with several high profile game releases that moves more HW than usual and retailers start preping for that before it happens. So, end of september and October is usually the time more HW is "on shelves" in preperation for individual game releases and Holydays.
edit: and bundles also start to ship out.



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ioi said:
Ninsect said:

At the end of September though? The holidays are almost two months away at that point


Look at historical comparisons that have been done between shipped and sold at various points - the quarter ending September normally shows the biggest gap as they channel stuff ready for the holidays.


ioi any comment about wii u?my theory is that wii u has  a little number on the shelves because many stores  don t have it or have few, not order any or order few and that they are  not willing to stock up.They  just get what they can sell because they are a little biased and afraid of wii u(make me thinking that ninty underships)!Even whole countries don t have it...so nintendo almost sells what it ships!Do you agree?Because your tracking agrees:P



why people dont wait for official numbers?

at least sony will give them



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I don't think its undertracked by that much.



    

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welcome to the xbox 360 and ps3 saga,pretty much the same deal
i dont get ioi and their tracking methods , the illusion of accuracy comes from its constant adjustments
this site needs to improve greatly on itstracking method especially on the ps side whichforsomeconvenientreason are consistently over tracked



ioi said:

Look at historical comparisons that have been done between shipped and sold at various points - the quarter ending September normally shows the biggest gap as they channel stuff ready for the holidays.

And why the sold data from Sony didn't match with VGC data yet? The issues is before Setember from what I see.



ioi said:

Look at historical comparisons that have been done between shipped and sold at various points - the quarter ending September normally shows the biggest gap as they channel stuff ready for the holidays.


Thanks for giving us at least some answers.

I think you should post more in sales threads. Would clear up a lot of confusion and its always fun to see you ban people for being annoying.



                            

PS4 is getting adjusted down too. Not sure what's going on. I would think PS4 is in the high 13 millions by now at least.



Carl2291 said:
ioi said:

Look at historical comparisons that have been done between shipped and sold at various points - the quarter ending September normally shows the biggest gap as they channel stuff ready for the holidays.


Thanks for giving us at least some answers.

I think you should post more in sales threads. Would clear up a lot of confusion and its always fun to see you ban people for being annoying.


looool only ioi?why not you and others? save us carl:PYeah,i m always glad when ioi comments!