you summed up and agree :D, compared to PS3 and Xbox 360 how many games can be played from 2007 until 2013 on GTX8800?

Look how many games on PC 2007 onward some games require some upgrade here and there to run, even small upgrade, for examples games like Call of Duty Ghost, Wolf stain, Splinter cell and etc.

Yup you need money to buy good parts on PC and time and effort to search in Internet, asking some friend, and knowledge so no one able to fool you.

like i said different type of people who played on console and PC, and thus comparing them directly is a bit silly and comparing the hardware is even more stupid.

The principle is more like PC (General PC) is more of like Swiss army knife and console is more of cooking knife, but dedicated gaming PC is more of the expensive Swiss army knife with the capability and also flexibility but the price also far exceeding both knife.

If you wan't to get technical... I never bought into the Geforce 8xxx series, it's nVidia. ;)

However... If we were to for instance take my 6-7 year old PC with it's Core 2 Quad, 8Gb of DDR2... It's not going to be setting anyones world on fire in the performance stakes.

However, fast forward multiple years, I dropped a Radeon 6570 into it for $30.
Suddenly I am able to play pretty much all console multi-platforms just fine again, even today I am throwing games at it like Defense Grid 2 and Battlefield 4 at high at 720P/30fps without a problem, obviously the Core 2 Quad is heavily overclocked and I didn't leave the low-profile Radeon 6570 clocks un-touched either.
But for $30? Can you really argue with that? Considering you can pick up a Core 2 Quad from recyclers now essentially for free...

To put that into perspective... That is less than the price of a console controller.
If I wanted to push for higher resolutions, then bumping that $30 graphics card to a $200 Radeon R9 270 would be the better idea (Or a Second hand Radeon 7850/7870 for about $100 AUD), then you could push for 1080P in the majority of titles, Mantle would help massively for a low-end rig like this.

Upgrading a PC is pretty darn easy, AMD even made a video of a monkey doing it, websites like toms hardware, guru3D and Anandtech can give you a good idea of what to get with their "Best cards" at various price points.
If you don't feel confident doing it yourself, any reputable computer store is usually more than happy to do it for you.

However, this isn't the norm, but you do have the choice and choice is never a bad thing.

Actually that's not entirely true. Look up the paradox of choice, or psychology of too many choices.

I quickly get demotivated when I start looking for a new GPU, so many options. Before I was happy when a game had pages of graphics options, configurable ini files and what not, nowadays I don't care. I rather have the chef prepare a well balanced meal for me than build my own subway sandwhich.
I was excited for a bit when Steam announced the Steam box. 1 or maybe a few pc specs that games would be optimized for and guarantee a good baseline performance like on consoles, in a neat box to put under the tv. Well it didn't quite turn out to be that. I don't know enough of current hardware to confidently put together my own system in little time, yet enough to know there are probably better/different/cheaper ways if I keep looking. With consoles, no need to keep looking, just play the games.

Choice is good, especially binary choices, and I chose not to be part of the PC master race anymore :)

The fact that I asked you to clarify yourself/your points/the OP and you yet again dodge such direct questioning means that you are simply out for an argument rather than a debate.

If you have no problem with playing in 720p and with reduced effects of the newer titles, you can play most of the 7th generation games with a 8800 GTX.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4625Wbb0ORs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhEcyI_XP2c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njN9m4KwMI4

You don't quit do you? Clarify myself? Are you being serious?

Anyways, I will indulge you.

Please, can yu kindly point out exactly what it is I have said that you need clarifying. You could quote something if that would help. But please keep it to things that I have said and not what you have inferred. So just point out exactly what I have said that you need me to clarify. This way its simpler for both of us and we keep theis thread on a subject that is actually being discussed and not one being assumed.

And in as few words as possible, I will reply exactly what it is that you have asked. Now its one thing to give you a reply explaning my position, its a completely different matter if you somehow feel that I am "lying" about my position and really mean to be saying something else even if I don't. If this turns out like that again, then I hope you would understand why/if I no longer respond to your queries.

Sounds fair?

I prefer console:

Easy to set up and I dont have to worry if my console is powerful enough to run the game smoothly or not etc.

Also, Im a local party guy, I like to play in the living room with a big screen with friends and share the experience. PC is like a 1 person party (same with handhelds) where I feel like im isolating myself or a loner.

And of course the exclusives.

Oh look again, avoiding such a straight forward question.

Did you not read the part in bold? Of course not, or you just want to ignore it. 

Well I think I just proved you're here only to start fights rather than debate.

glorious god gamers don't compare such things. we're above those that game on only one hardware.

You referring to this?

What is your point?  Are you defending the points in the OP, wanting people to debate them, or disagreeing with them?

If thats the case,

• MY POINT: Is that if the performance of a game running on PCs are being compared to it running on consoles, then the "spec" of the PC used should match the "spec" of the console its being compared to. 
• AS FOR THE POINTS IN THE OP: They are there for the sole reason of emphasising the point above. To show that theer are a vast number of different PC hardware classes and how relatively easy it should be finding those that match the specs in a console. Either using the cost of the console as a guide or the hardware inside it. I also hoped to show that there are also very different type of consumers, hoping to point out (what was already obvious) that most people just want to walk in and buy stuff and how they do not attach the kinda reasoning, research or DIY attitude that majority of PC gamers have.
• AS FOR PPL DEBATING THEM: Thats not really my business. I have not stopped anyone from arguing or debating the points I made in the OP. They after all are just reasons I gave to support the main point I was trying to make. Which again, is that comparisons should be made between hardware that are in the same class.
• AS FOR WAT THE PC GUYS ARE PUSHING: The PC guys (unless I am mistaken) seem to be saying that the true cost of ownership of a console is not $400. But rather $400+annual sub fees+higher average costs of games+duration of a generation. And as such is in line with more expensive PC hardware. That kinda reasoning (while true depending on perspective) only applies to my argument if my argumnet was in quantifying the Performance:dolar ratio of consoles vs PC. Which is not what I am doing. Because that inherently would factor in a number of variables that is simply impossible to predict and varies from user to user. But one thing that you can gurantee, is how much a person spends over the counter for a console and how much a GPU costs at any point in a gaming generation. If you want me to point out why this kinda reasoning is very inaccurate in relation to hardwae costs I will. Though that has nothing to do with this thread.