I always connect a laptop to my LCD, it's more easy tho, but i have  the same problem with u, it just really akward  to navigate my OS to just playing game with mouse from a distance  :D.

If both of those computers are hardwired, the Steam In-Home Streaming works decently thus far (though I've only really played DmC with it, going from the Desktop to a Laptop hooked into a TV outside.). Sucks over wireless though (well, maybe not AC, haven't tried it).

I think it's perfectly fair to leave out the display.  This might not have been the case 5-7 years ago, but all video cards come with HDMI ports these days. So you can easily plug your PC into your computer monitor, or your TV. And there is a likely chance that you can get a computer monitor with an HDMI port that will let you hook up your console to it.  Not everyone will necessarily do this, but the options are there.  Display should be irrelevant to this argument, given how these devices connect with each other today.

So you never once said "Lol... ok, if you so." or "And if you can get you head in the game" (hint; start at page 10).

I've mentioned benchmarks before...so the issue is that you didn't read my replies carefully. This picture is starting to become more clear. As for being "off the mark", I'm not - I just don't tolerate people making ill informed comments. I don't have to deal with folks like that in real life, so why tolerate them here? ^^ I would make an epic moderator.

What is your point?  Are you defending the points in the OP, wanting people to debate them, or disagreeing with them? Because I've assumed the 1st and 2nd. Also I think your grammar hasn't helped as sometimes it makes your sentences somewhat incoherent which never helps in a debate.

Ok... I hear you. But please, lets give it a rest. I think this debate, argument, misunderstanding or attack (whichever you wanna call it) has gone on long enough. We are just going round in circles. Cause I could just as easily be saying to you that you should look at what you said that made me respond to you like that in the first place. But its enough.

I honestly don't know what we are talking about now or what the point of this discussion is. So lets just agree to disagree. 

I got around that... By "streaming" my PC over my network.

Think of remote play, but in every single room of your home at the same time, when my sister brings her kids over, they go balastic and they access my Steam full Library from $100 "Dumb Clients". (Better than letting them use my thousands of dollars worth of hardware.)

If all you're going to do is nitpick and hate on someone whilst not adding anything new or constructive to the topic at hand, then don't bother posting.

What I stated was in jest, lighten up, recognise a joke when you see one.

It's a good thing nVidia never released a GPU with a "TnL chip" to get burnt out then.

If you go LGA 2011, you are then playing with server-class hardware in some cases, which has more reliability testing than consoles.

Heck, My bus terminal is still using a 386/486 PC running DOS (That's right, no Microsoft Windows), that thing would have to be 20+ years old.
I have another PC in my home which is 6 years old with a Core 2 Quad, 8Gb of Ram and a $30 Radeon 6570, you would be surprised how it runs games and it's never skipped a beat.
I also have zero need to upgrade the CPU, even though it's freaking ancient, at 3.6ghz it still handles everything fine.

The warranty on my main PC is also longer than a console generation, my motherboard is at 10 years, my CPU has a "single failure" warranty after 3 years, thus if I blow my CPU up after the warranty is expired, I get a new CPU (Here we are at 3 years!), my PSU has a 7 year warranty, my Ram has a lifetime warranty, my SSD's have a 5 year warranty... The list goes on.
The point is, if you pick and choose the right hardware, it can exceed a console in terms of reliability, MTBF and warranty.

Let's not forget PC's just plain look cooler than the boring black console boxes.

Yh I know about that. Basically doing the same thing for my media. But me and PC gaming just don't sit too well. As I said I can't just dissociate the feeling of it being a workstation. Its so bad that even for my mediacentre, I went to the trouble of using a remote control so i never actually have to use a keyboard or mouse to navigate Kodi. 

I don't agree that PC boxes look cooler than console boxes though. Then again its probably a preference thing. I like everything minimalistic. Which is why for my Rig I use an alluminium Lian Li case. Hate seeing wires and can't wrap my head around why some PC gamers insist on having a windowed case to show off their hardware lol. I personally think the PS4 is a beautiful peice of kit. They should have put the USB ports at the back of the box though. 

Well you tell me what was wrong with it. Games started with a bit of graphical corruption to being completely invisible behind the mess of criss crossing lines, and the only way to 'fix' it was by disabling Hardware TnL in the ini files for Everquest, and in the settings for FS2004. A video problem that gradually gets worse is a deteriorating chip in my book. It was an overclocked card, at least it was promoted that way.

I had a different video problem before with a NVidia Riva TNT2 card with the video in/out port. I had to route my Dreamcast through my PC to get it to display on my CRT projector. For some reason the signal level from the DC was not compatible with my projector. That all worked fine for a while (crazy taxi on 72" screen was awesome), until 1/4 of the top of the screen always remained blue.

I've had better luck with pc hardware since I stopped buying stuff on release :) Now I need to apply that lesson to consoles... (rrods/ylod/wii disc drive problems had em all)

Could have been a myriad of different issues, but it could have been the TnL unit at fault. (It wasn't a seperate chip, which I was pointing at in my last post.)
The difference between nVidia's Geforce FX and ATI's Radeon 9000 series at the time was ATI removed the fixed-function TnL unit and performed those functions in the shader hardware instead.
nVidia didn't, they had a seperate TnL unit on the FX, which was part of the "GPU" and not a seperate chip, it wasn't untill the Geforce 6000 series that the TnL unit was absolished in nVidia graphics processors.
When I was reverse engineering SM3.0 shaders down to SM1.1 in order to get more performance out of nVidia FX cards, I generally ignored the TnL unit completely and tried to minimise the use of the vertex shaders.

When it comes to PC hardware, avoid "budget" brands like ECS, Biostar, Asrock.
And generally, longer the warranty, the more content a manufacturer is with it's reliability.

With Graphics Card's the "premium" cards like MSI's with "Military Grade stuffs" or Asus DirectCU II are generally going to be more reliable as they use higher premium components for better reliability and power delivery and other benefits.

It's rare I don't own a card that will last for years without a problem.

1 Alright so to the point of your post I agree that the comparisons are often biased in favor of whoever the poster favors. I am a console gamer AND a PC gamer and if what you are comparing is the "experience" then obviously it will be different for everyone and the comparison is pointless. 2 If you are trying to compare console gaming to PC gaming of similar or the same games (action, shooters and western RPGs) then this is where things get very interesting. However, it must be noted that your point about being the type of person who is willing to work a little on the PC side of things, that is completely true BUT it is worth it. 3 A price comparison of consoles and PCs just isn't fair. Consoles are always going to be much cheaper because they are MASS marketed and PCs are not (a plus for consoles). 4 Also working in consoles favor is the optimization factor. Games on consoles are optimized much more than on PCs which should be obvious to most people that it is because consoles are static hardware and PCs are extremely varied like you said price of hardware can go from a few hundred to thousands. This means that the PS4 with the AMD GPU in it (which is equivalent to the AMD 7850/7870) will most likely perform better than a PC with a AMD 7850/7870 unless the particular game is CPU heavy which would heavily favor the PC since the CPU in the PS4 (and XBOX1 for that matter) is much weaker (yes I know they have 8 cores but that is not all that matters) than current CPUs in PCs. 5 Also working in consoles favor (most of the time) is form factor. They are much smaller (not including laptops for obvious reasons concerning price) and are thus more portable which can be a plus for some people. 6 Another positive is that consoles use less energy so they tend to lower your energy bills when compared to PCs. 7 Local multiplayer is also a plus for consoles (especially Nintendo) but PCs are capable of local multiplayer but most PC gamers use monitors and are usually playing by themselves locally or online for multiplayer games.

So those are a lot of reasons why someone would want to or even prefer to game on consoles (a la my brother). Now on the PC side there are also a lot of benefits but like I said earlier you will most likely have to spend more to start in comparison to console gaming. For PC gaming you cannot or at least you should not just go into a local Best Buy completely blind and just buy the most expensive PC that they have. That would be a waste of money. Since you cannot do this you will have to either educate yourself or bring someone along who is educated in this area of gaming. My personal preference as it seems many PC gamers share also is to build your own rig but that is not for everyone and I wholly understand that.

1 PC gaming has the positives of customization (extreme customization for those who are well adept to PC gaming). 2 On PCs you do not have to pay monthly internet fees like on consoles (except Nintendo which is one of the reasons why I still have love for Nintendo). 3 In addition for many games on PC, there are tons of MODs that add to the experience and longevity of these games. 4 Also as far as PC game prices go it is very true that the prices are much lower for PCs however most PC gamers buy games digitally (Steam) and cannot take their game to GameStop to trade it or sell it (a la console gamers most often do) so it seems to evens out HOWEVER I still think the prices are so low that PC gamers 1 up their console counterparts. 5 Every platform be it PC or any variant of the consoles have their exclusives that can make or break the deal for any gamer BUT PC gamers also have the added benefit of having the best MMOs if you are into that sort of thing (I am not). 6 Obviously for those of you who are just looking for the best FPS and resolution PC gaming is the way to go but of course you'd have to be willing to spend upwards of 1K for really good performance. 7 PCs are much more powerful than consoles plain and simple. If anyone denies that then they are delusional to say the least. The downside to this for many PC gamers is a room that feels like the heater has been left on haha (unless you water cool your rig). 8 Another huge benefit for PC gamers that not too many mention is EMULATORS (not always necessarily legal). You can download emulators and play games (ROMs) from NES all the way up to the Wii. This is huge for people who are nostalgic gamers. 9 1 more benefit for those few of you who chose to go the route of PC gaming and have the knowhow is OVERCLOCKING. If you feel your hardware is no longer keeping up with the times you can and should (since you are feeling like spending money by now on something else) first attempt to over clock your PC. If you bought your PC in a store like Best Buy then sorry you are most likely out of luck but if you bought your PC in a PC boutique store or built it yourself then you most likely can over clock your PC considerably (educate yourself before attempting this as you take the risk of fudging up your whole rig).

Yes PC gaming tends to be more expensive than console gaming but in all honesty you get a lot more for your money in the long run (over 2 years). Both PCs and consoles have their benefits but for WOW factor you just can't beat the PC. PCs look so much cooler than consoles with their water cooled parts and lighting and even custom/modified casing. Also, the point of saying that it doesn't matter that the gaming PC can do more than just game is not a good point because most people have some sort of computer whether it be a laptop, a PC or something from Apple. So there is a good point to make to say that a PC can be great for gaming AND for other non gaming activities/tasks/work. So to end my giant post I will say that I love BOTH console gaming AND PC gaming for the points I listed above. Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft all have great exclusives and while PCs do have exclusives as well they may not compare well to those offered on consoles unless you like MMOs (I am not huge on MMOs). PC gamers get way more customization options in both aesthetics and performance and game MODs (if you don't know what MODs are then look it up cuz you are missing out). Really good PC gaming IS MORE EXPENSIVE than console gaming so if you are not the type to want spend the dough then stick with consoles (you get really good exclusives anyways) BUT if you are even just a little computer savvy then I guarantee you will not feel slighted when you spend a little more on your gaming rig. So I do see the point of the OP but this is my rebuttal (my way of saying yes true BUT...) of sorts I guess to the conclusion made. I am not a fanboy I am an enthusiast and love all gaming so everyone just be glad you have the great opportunity to be a gamer as this is seems to be the age of the gamers!